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Sadly what you say in jest is probably true these days.Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Thu, 23 July 2015 22:04
Having spoken to a few labour supporters, the general consensus seems to be 'we need to win because we don't want the Tories to win.' One of them said this is why they need Kendall, as she'll take 'the shy tories',
My problem being, what's the point winning if you're just going to implement what the tories would have anyway?
I don't think who ever wins now will be contesting the the next election.
I'll be keeping an eye on this fella Sir Keir Starmer, KCB, QC.
I wonder if he'd be any good at the despatch box?
Here is a brilliant example of Corbyn being the one and only candidate who wil answer straight questions with straight answers.
go Jeremy
Did I really just see Feedy agree with Archie????Here is a brilliant example of Corbyn being the one and only candidate who wil answer straight questions with straight answers.
Dear gawd... is the world endin!?Here is a brilliant example of Corbyn being the one and only candidate who wil answer straight questions with straight answers.it was a long winded way of saying yes but I agree. this can only be good for the country as it means labour become unelectable.
we've agreed on many things before. just no politicsHere is a brilliant example of Corbyn being the one and only candidate who wil answer straight questions with straight answers.it was a long winded way of saying yes but I agree. this can only be good for the country as it means labour become unelectable.
However Labour are very soft about ousting leaders unlike the more brutal tories so I think the new Labour leader will be there , whoever it is, at the next election.
I don't think any of these candidates could beat David Cameron, but they don't have to. Which will be able to firstly provide strong opposition and then beat May/Gideon/Boris?
Corbyn / Abbott dream ticket
Like all good socialists Corbyn cant add up (not a problem he is a dreamer not a realist)
If anyone of the 5 candidates can offer up a working solution that removes the need for austerity then they need to stand up and tell the world............ yeah thought not
Which is the reason why Harman didnt oppose the welfare reforms last week.
Mr Hollande promised and end to austerity (then changed his mind) so did the Greek PM - lots of flag waving like he had just won the lottery - then he wakes up after the party - with no solution - dreamers
Chuka smelt the coffee and did a runner (blaming press intrusion) - he may come back after 2020 - my money is on Kinnock jnr - son of Neil 'Gravy Train' Kinnock to be the leader.
Kinnock Jnr actually wants a drop in the income tax rate to 35p
you're banging your head against a brick wall trying to educate the left wing brigade on here. They are confused where economics and finances are concerned.Corbyn / Abbott dream ticket
Corbyn / Abbott dream ticket
Do you think it's sensible for governments to run deficits continually at the rates adopted by the western world pre crash?
Why are you against governments living within their means? Again you appear to be advocating giving taxpayers money to the financial institutions in the city.
I appear this, i appear that, you assume this, you assume that ---- yet nothing connected with things i have actually said.
See if you can get it right for changeDo you think it's sensible for governments to run deficits continually at the rates adopted by the western world pre crash?
"You can only remove the NEED for austerity if there is a NEED to be removed in the first place "
Straight from the top draw of the Tony Benn / Karl Marx dream book.
"Building a better Britain for all"
"Let us not think about the future until we forget about the current"
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
And other such clap trap
Do you question anything the establishmnet tells you, or are you happy to be spoon fed propaganda and take it all in unquestioningly?
Dont trust any of them Archie - and some less than others.
Fair play that drivel you came out with "You can only remove the NEED for austerity if there is a NEED to be removed in the first place "
Is straight out of the book of meaningless statements Vol 1 - along with others I quoted
If it's the former then isn't your statement in bold above a case of 'do as I say not as I do' whereas if it's the latter would you mind sharing this evidence you have collated."You can only remove the NEED for austerity if there is a NEED to be removed in the first place "
you've said previously you were happy for the city to take taxpayers money. There was no 'appear' or 'assume' about it.Do you think it's sensible for governments to run deficits continually at the rates adopted by the western world pre crash?
I suppose I should take it as a compliment that you feel the need to constantly misquote me. It is a sign that you cannot debate me with facts and have to resort to lies."You can only remove the NEED for austerity if there is a NEED to be removed in the first place "Straight from the top draw of the Tony Benn / Karl Marx dream book.
If you don't trust them why are you buying into the need for austerity myth?
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