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And now they are coming for the coppers ..
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/31/police-force- new-spending-cuts-22000-jobs
"Planned government spending cuts will see at least 22,000 police jobs being lost, leaving the public protected by the lowest numbers of officers since the 1970s, according to a private estimate circulating among police chiefs."
Isn't crime down?
Yes, no bloody coppers available to pick up the phones!Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 01 September 2015 09:37
Stats do not tell full picture.
of course they don't. is the converse true that when the incidents of reported crime rise actual crime remains the same and that it is the underlying confidence that something will be done by the police that encourages people to report crimes?Isn't crime down?
The stats in relation to crime are completely manipulated.
There was a home office circular pre election in 2014 which gave a number of outcomes in regards to crime detection.
Basically some ludicrous outcomes were reclassified as 'detected'
and some manipulation to ensure more violent offences weren't classified i.e. robbery detected if a suspect charged, no robbery detected therefore changed to assault and theft.
There's about three coppers working in busy areas of Cardiff on a Saturday night.
The Guardian is right on this issue.
How do you know there are only 3 police in busy areas of Cardiff on a Saturday night. And what areas do you mean?
Nothing can go wrong there can it!
Trust meThe stats in relation to crime are completely manipulated.
There certainly is the potential for that, yes.Isn't crime down?Not seen the figures but they do not paint full picture. Reports of crime can fall due to lack of confidence in the police doing anything, sometimes due to reduced number of coppers.
I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.
Isn't that what policing is?I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.
In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.
in the UK?I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?
Well yes! Of course!I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.
So you don't know then!!The stats in relation to crime are completely manipulated.There was a home office circular pre election in 2014 which gave a number of outcomes in regards to crime detection.
"There's about three coppers working in busy areas of Cardiff on a Saturday night"
Is there ?
There are quite a few more than that mate - Ive got a mate who is one of them. Next time I see him I'll ask.
There is a lack of violent crime in cardiff city centre due to people knowing they are and can be traced easily on cctv - not like the old days of massive scraps in Caroline Street.
Stats are no use - as stated.
You can only go your own experiences
Have you been burgled in the last couple of years ?
Been mugged or beaten up - anyone you know been murdered ?
Has your car been nicked or damaged or tour house graffiti'd ?
Been pick pocketed ?
If you havent had any of these - then I'm guessing you could say there you dont have a problem with crime where you live and work.
There are more cut backs to come, I'm not having a go at the lads and lasses in SWP as I know how stretched they are.
Do you have examples?I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?
Loads moreI think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?Well yes! Of course!
Several good examples in this video Taking LibertiesI think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?Well yes! Of course!
I don't have an hour and 40 minutes. Can you summarise?I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?Well yes! Of course!Do you have examples?
as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.I think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?Well yes! Of course!Do you have examples?Several good examples in this video Taking Liberties
Watch the first few minutes, you will get the pictureI think a bit like football we should begin to move away from policing and introduce self stewarding.Isn't that what policing is?In theory. I practice, as well as being used to deal with crimes police forces have been used to control and often oppress the people and political opposition that challenges the establishment.in the UK?Well yes! Of course!Do you have examples?Several good examples in this video Taking Liberties
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