30,000 new homes for cardiff

[Packerman]

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

They're planning to build a gypsy camp?

Yes across the road from the old one

As a replacement? Didn't know they were closing one, is it the Rover Way one?

Yes it is,the residents are not happy at being moved.

Well my box of givea****s is empty on that score.

I'm normally of the opinion that there's good and bad in every race and nationality but gypsies are such an unpleasant bunch of people, never met a good 'un.

I know and get on with all the travelers on the site never had a moments prob at all

Do you know A Tuna?, he never had a son.

do you know jack, captain of a fishing boat

[Elysium]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The road network is in part due to the timing of Cardiff's development. Larger cities with better road networks had infrastructure built when it was easy to do so. Nowadays it's harder to get anything built so Cardiff's infrastructure isn't going to improve any time soon.

People need to live somewhere. We need to depopulated the northern valleys and move the population south to Caerphilly, cardiff north/east/wesr and lower RCT so people are within easy commute of where the work is.

Agree-There are huge pockets of the Valleys with big social and economic problems, the Welsh government has tried initiative after initiative, with little affect. Social Mobility (in my opinion) will act as the biggest and most effective solution to eradicating some of the poverty-both socially and economic-in the South Wales Valleys. The only mis-giving is if the housing is ever built, who will it be aimed towards, and will people who need a chance to better themselves be given that opportunity.

Most people work to live, Rather than live to work. And rightly so. We should be trying to generate employment in the valleys rather than move people to the cities.

A big part of the problem is globalisation and big business. People would rather go to a big chain in Cardiff and buy something made on the other side of the world and line the pockets of a faceless corporation than buy something locally and support their neighbourhood. An attitude that is doomed to result in capitalism eating itself.

What are you suggesting!

[Feedback]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The road network is in part due to the timing of Cardiff's development. Larger cities with better road networks had infrastructure built when it was easy to do so. Nowadays it's harder to get anything built so Cardiff's infrastructure isn't going to improve any time soon.

People need to live somewhere. We need to depopulated the northern valleys and move the population south to Caerphilly, cardiff north/east/wesr and lower RCT so people are within easy commute of where the work is.

Agree-There are huge pockets of the Valleys with big social and economic problems, the Welsh government has tried initiative after initiative, with little affect. Social Mobility (in my opinion) will act as the biggest and most effective solution to eradicating some of the poverty-both socially and economic-in the South Wales Valleys. The only mis-giving is if the housing is ever built, who will it be aimed towards, and will people who need a chance to better themselves be given that opportunity.

Most people work to live, Rather than live to work. And rightly so. We should be trying to generate employment in the valleys rather than move people to the cities.

A big part of the problem is globalisation and big business. People would rather go to a big chain in Cardiff and buy something made on the other side of the world and line the pockets of a faceless corporation than buy something locally and support their neighbourhood. An attitude that is doomed to result in capitalism eating itself.

what industries do you think the valleys could support without state intervention? communities should aim to be self sustaining and self reliant

[jeepster]

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

They're planning to build a gypsy camp?

Yes across the road from the old one

As a replacement? Didn't know they were closing one, is it the Rover Way one?

Yes it is,the residents are not happy at being moved.

Well my box of givea****s is empty on that score.

I'm normally of the opinion that there's good and bad in every race and nationality but gypsies are such an unpleasant bunch of people, never met a good 'un.

I know and get on with all the travelers on the site never had a moments prob at all

It is

[Heathccfc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-35241858

More and improved housing stock needed in the valleys with a vastly improved service into the diff

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

They're planning to build a gypsy camp?

Yes at Sea wall road 65 units

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

Which sites are in the flood zone?

Ferry road area

[Pug]

I know they are building 1500 house on the farmland between the Unicorn Pub beyond bridge road, both sides of the river. Bet the people who live on the hill on bridge road will be well happy. I know the farmer who had a compulsory purchase of his land. Never seen a smile so wide.

[poc]

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

Which sites are in the flood zone?

South of St Mellons

theres no room left south of clive street and ferry road and it never flooded down there except under the old railway bridge next to the red house and that was only on the highest of tides which doesnt matter anymore

[NECS]

Thank God the Bute family lawyers did such a good job in tying the Council up in knots back in 1947 or Bale and his merry men would be building on Bute Park.

[My Name is Dave.]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-35241858

hopefully they will spread these fairly across the northern side of the city , llanishen , cycncoed , thornill , llandaff north and others

Also Radyr Sidings and the BBC site in the future aswell.

[stevebrickman]

I have said this before on here - it will be absolutely criminal if they go ahead with the St Ederyn development (east of Pontprennau) without some significant changes to East Cardiff's road/rail infrastructure. Its a nightmare every morning as it is.

[Tuerto]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The road network is in part due to the timing of Cardiff's development. Larger cities with better road networks had infrastructure built when it was easy to do so. Nowadays it's harder to get anything built so Cardiff's infrastructure isn't going to improve any time soon.

People need to live somewhere. We need to depopulated the northern valleys and move the population south to Caerphilly, cardiff north/east/wesr and lower RCT so people are within easy commute of where the work is.

Agree-There are huge pockets of the Valleys with big social and economic problems, the Welsh government has tried initiative after initiative, with little affect. Social Mobility (in my opinion) will act as the biggest and most effective solution to eradicating some of the poverty-both socially and economic-in the South Wales Valleys. The only mis-giving is if the housing is ever built, who will it be aimed towards, and will people who need a chance to better themselves be given that opportunity.

Nearly every ounce of major industry has been ripped from the valleys, from the Coal mines, Steel works in Ebbw Vale, the Hoover plant in Merthyr and the Burberry factory at Treorchy. People need jobs, and decent jobs to boot. How will this be achieved.

[TH63]

I noticed in the report that they admit that three of the new housing sites and a new Pikey camp are within the flood zone.Will they ever learn

They're planning to build a gypsy camp?

Yes across the road from the old one

As a replacement? Didn't know they were closing one, is it the Rover Way one?

Yes it is,the residents are not happy at being moved.

Travellers not happy about moving?

Might move to Cardiff then, new way of life.

[TH63]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

More trains

I get that this is a joke, but really it could be the answer. We are blessed with plenty of stations around cardiff, they just arent used because for various reasons. Getting people back on trains would ease road congestion, which in turn would mean you could handle having more people living here. Belgium have a good train network based on this very principle if you want to look it up.

It will soon be nigh on impossible to drive to the city centre for work, and the latest council brainwave of adding a new bus lane to the already crowded Caerphilly road is going to make matters even worse.

[Zenith]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

More trains

I get that this is a joke, but really it could be the answer. We are blessed with plenty of stations around cardiff, they just arent used because for various reasons. Getting people back on trains would ease road congestion, which in turn would mean you could handle having more people living here. Belgium have a good train network based on this very principle if you want to look it up.

Sorry for Trains again

A reinforcement of some secure jobs in the valleys would (hopefully) lessen this by a good extent. At the moment, driving in Cardiff is only getting worse every year and some 30,000 new homes as you say, is going to become impossible to drive around the city.

[ziggym]

St.Mellons gridlocked every Monday-Friday, so lets build 1500 new houses and add to the mayhem. To make things worse, to avoid the mayhem, I travel through the lanes, but that is where the houses are going up. Totally buggered. Feel sorry for people who eventually live in these houses, as powers to be decided to close the exit from the unicorn pub, leaving all the traffic from these houses to go through Old St.Mellons. Muppets.
Surely building north of the M4 is the only option....

[Elysium]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The investment in jobs is always going to go to major cities such as Cardiff rather than to the valley's

[stevebrickman]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The gridlock is most likely caused by the amount of people that commute in to Cardiff for work on a daily basis - approximately 90,000 each day, many of them by car.

East Cardiff has no train service.

[Elysium]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The gridlock is most likely caused by the amount of people that commute in to Cardiff for work on a daily basis - approximately 90,000 each day, many of them by car.

The gridlock is not caused by people actually living in the city itself. Building all these houses outside of Cardiff will add to the number of commuters causing further gridlock.

The same that would happen if the houses were built outside of the City instead of within it. More commuters. Though some would catch a bus as buses serve the areas you refer to. So not quite so bad.

[archibald leitch]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The road network is in part due to the timing of Cardiff's development. Larger cities with better road networks had infrastructure built when it was easy to do so. Nowadays it's harder to get anything built so Cardiff's infrastructure isn't going to improve any time soon.

People need to live somewhere. We need to depopulated the northern valleys and move the population south to Caerphilly, cardiff north/east/wesr and lower RCT so people are within easy commute of where the work is.

Agree-There are huge pockets of the Valleys with big social and economic problems, the Welsh government has tried initiative after initiative, with little affect. Social Mobility (in my opinion) will act as the biggest and most effective solution to eradicating some of the poverty-both socially and economic-in the South Wales Valleys. The only mis-giving is if the housing is ever built, who will it be aimed towards, and will people who need a chance to better themselves be given that opportunity.

Most people work to live, Rather than live to work. And rightly so. We should be trying to generate employment in the valleys rather than move people to the cities.

A big part of the problem is globalisation and big business. People would rather go to a big chain in Cardiff and buy something made on the other side of the world and line the pockets of a faceless corporation than buy something locally and support their neighbourhood. An attitude that is doomed to result in capitalism eating itself.

We have tried to generate employment in the valleys for many, many years, millions if not billions of European money has been thrown at this and failed.

If industry should be self sustaining then the state should not be manufacturing this growth of Cardiff which is part of the reason the valleys are struggling.

[Feedback]

There's gridlock on the roads at rush hour now. More grandiose schemes from an incompetent Council.

The road network is in part due to the timing of Cardiff's development. Larger cities with better road networks had infrastructure built when it was easy to do so. Nowadays it's harder to get anything built so Cardiff's infrastructure isn't going to improve any time soon.

People need to live somewhere. We need to depopulated the northern valleys and move the population south to Caerphilly, cardiff north/east/wesr and lower RCT so people are within easy commute of where the work is.

Agree-There are huge pockets of the Valleys with big social and economic problems, the Welsh government has tried initiative after initiative, with little affect. Social Mobility (in my opinion) will act as the biggest and most effective solution to eradicating some of the poverty-both socially and economic-in the South Wales Valleys. The only mis-giving is if the housing is ever built, who will it be aimed towards, and will people who need a chance to better themselves be given that opportunity.

Most people work to live, Rather than live to work. And rightly so. We should be trying to generate employment in the valleys rather than move people to the cities.

A big part of the problem is globalisation and big business. People would rather go to a big chain in Cardiff and buy something made on the other side of the world and line the pockets of a faceless corporation than buy something locally and support their neighbourhood. An attitude that is doomed to result in capitalism eating itself.

We have tried to generate employment in the valleys for many, many years, millions if not billions of European money has been thrown at this and failed.

Why should further good money be thrown at the valleys?

My final comment is that cities that don't grow die. If cardiff doesn't grow then as the powerhouse of the welsh economy that will be bad news for Wales.

[blue sky]

My final comment is that cities that don't grow die. If cardiff doesn't grow then as the powerhouse of the welsh economy that will be bad news for Wales.

The Cardiff LDP will merely kill the golden goose that is Cardiff's liveability.

[Elysium]

My final comment is that cities that don't grow die. If cardiff doesn't grow then as the powerhouse of the welsh economy that will be bad news for Wales.

Could you name a city that died because it didn't grow? Cardiff's population projections have been made solely with its physical expansion, as prescribed in the corrupt LDP, as a driver of its population growth.

The corrupt LDP was the previous effort put forward by Cardiff, which was thrown out by the planning inspectorate.