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[archibald leitch]

Changing goalposts. That old chestnut. In what way have I changed goalposts? In what way have I made out you've said something you've not?

If you are now accepting that the anarchists did not hold any power, your entire argument that anarchists are corrupted by power is booted out of the stadium and your last half dozen posts become meaningless.

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Why do you do it? Why not refrain from your emotional outbursts?

You've misunderstood my posts clearly. I've said you and jon can't agree to what extent the anarchists were involved or what numbers were involved. I've even qualified it by suggesting there's an issue of definition, even within the leftist movement.

Your second point is also comical even by your own standards. Just because the anarchists have never held any power does not mean that power wouldn't corrupt anarchists - power corrupts all men.

This is akin to me saying (again) that since we've never had a truly capitalist society (the state has always had some ownership of resource) then your argument that 'capitalism is flawed' is booted out of the park etc etc. And you whole raison d'etre withers away.

I am genuinely interested why you think that just because anarchists have never been in power, you extrapolate that power wouldn't corrupt any one single anarchist if they were put in that position?

[archibald leitch]

Just because the anarchists have never held any power does not mean that power wouldn't corrupt anarchists - power corrupts all men.

So you have no evidence at all then. it is just guess work about something that might happen based on no evidence. Fair enough, you should have said earlier instead of trying to make out that it had already happened. Would have saved time.

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Just because the anarchists have never held any power does not mean that power wouldn't corrupt anarchists - power corrupts all men.

So you have no evidence at all then. it is just guess work about something that might happen based on no evidence. Fair enough, you should have said earlier instead of trying to make out that it had already happened. Would have saved time.

I am making an educated guess based on behaviour of every other group that have gained power. Even the communists and socialists became corrupt by the pull of power. What in theory is a philosophy of equality turned into something much different and that's due to the people who wielded the power at the top.