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    Brexit ( should I say or should I go )

    If Boris has cleverly uncovered the real truth about EU regulation / directive that prohibits one from recycling teabags, I for one would find this the final tipping point on my voting decision to leave , if however its about Boris being elected as PM, I feel he would finally deal with this matter once and for all , and perhaps save me , as i have started a crusade to put wet teabags into my cardboard recycling bag.

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    Boris Johnson forced to admit EU regulations don't ban Brits recycling tea bags

    The Eurosceptic London Mayor also admitted there wasn't an outright ban on children under eight blowing up balloons

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    I've heard that if we leave the EU, all hard working families will be forced to eat one of their children.

    People without kids will be made to hollow out an elderly relative and use them as kayaks to travel across flooded farmland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    I've heard that if we leave the EU, all hard working families will be forced to eat one of their children.

    People without kids will be made to hollow out an elderly relative and use them as kayaks to travel across flooded farmland.
    Can you choose which child or relative,are there associated gender rulings under article 999 of the treaty.?

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    Let's be honest. What with climate change, Fukashima, the dire world economy, population explosion and pollution of our environment whether we leave or stay in the failed European experiment is a minor one.

    I'm going to vote to leave as it is one step along the road back from being governed by the state.

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    In
    Stephen hawking
    The governor of the bank of England
    The IMF
    Barrack Obama
    The prime minister
    The Chancellor of the exchequer
    The leader of the labour party
    Richard branson

    Vs

    Out
    Michael gove
    Nigel farage
    Ian Duncan smith
    John redwood
    Jacob Rees mogg
    John whittingdale
    George Galloway
    Boris Johnson
    Zac Goldsmith

    Personally I could see arguments either way, I would probably lean towards remain for reasons of security within Europe amongst other things.

    Not thing that makes brexit considerably less appealing, though is the prospect of agreeing with that squadron of imbeciles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    In
    Stephen hawking
    The governor of the bank of England
    The IMF
    Barrack Obama
    The prime minister
    The Chancellor of the exchequer
    The leader of the labour party
    Richard branson

    Vs

    Out
    Michael gove
    Nigel farage
    Ian Duncan smith
    John redwood
    Jacob Rees mogg
    John whittingdale
    George Galloway
    Boris Johnson
    Zac Goldsmith

    Personally I could see arguments either way, I would probably lean towards remain for reasons of security within Europe amongst other things.

    Not thing that makes brexit considerably less appealing, though is the prospect of agreeing with that squadron of imbeciles.

    Which one of the "in" crowd appealed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Which one of the "in" crowd appealed?
    Relatively speaking, all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Relatively speaking, all of them.
    And the IMF released some good songs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Relatively speaking, all of them.
    I am out then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    I am out then.
    As someone who supports the out campaign, don't you wish that there were some prominent brexit campaigners who weren't quite so odd?

    I mean, Michael Fabricant.

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    Re: Brexit ( should I say or should I go )

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    In
    Stephen hawking
    The governor of the bank of England
    The IMF
    Barrack Obama
    The prime minister
    The Chancellor of the exchequer
    The leader of the labour party
    Richard branson

    Vs

    Out
    Michael gove
    Nigel farage
    Ian Duncan smith
    John redwood
    Jacob Rees mogg
    John whittingdale
    George Galloway
    Boris Johnson
    Zac Goldsmith

    Personally I could see arguments either way, I would probably lean towards remain for reasons of security within Europe amongst other things.

    Not thing that makes brexit considerably less appealing, though is the prospect of agreeing with that squadron of imbeciles.
    You can add beefy to the out campaign, if its good enough for Boff, it's good enough for me, OUT it is.
    Last edited by Heathblue; 19-04-16 at 09:15.

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    Seems bizarre that leave has managed to pin down stay as being a campaign of fear. Fear was really the only reason anyone wanted a referendum in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    You can add beefy to the out campaign, if its good enough for Boff, it's good enough for me, OUT it is.
    The out list has a familiar loons look about it ,I'm staying in and my tea bags wet or dry

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    Whilst saying the remain camp were 'treating voters like children who can be frightened into obedience', Gove said 'We're voting to be hostages locked in the back of the car and driven headlong towards deeper EU integration'.

    Can politicians speak without being hypocrites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Whilst saying the remain camp were 'treating voters like children who can be frightened into obedience', Gove said 'We're voting to be hostages locked in the back of the car and driven headlong towards deeper EU integration'.

    Can politicians speak without being hypocrites?
    Grove also said that if we voted out we would rejoin the single European trading block. If he is being truthful, the only way we can do this if via the Norway Switzerland method, where you agree to the conditions to free movement of trade and people and you pay into the union. Basically exactly the same as what we have now, although he seems to think we wouldn't come under the EU courts of human rights. Not sure how he's going to square that circle.

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    Just traveled home and Mr Gove has frightened me , he used slogans like " enable the UK to take back control" " sovereignty "",
    "" economy "" " borders" "" spending priorities", " immigrants " I could go on it was so worrying i turned him off , strangely quiet on the Brentford game tonight though,unless he mentioned that at eh end of his speech, I was too frightened to listen to all of it .

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    Anything michael give want to do normally makes me think it's a bad idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug View Post
    Grove also said that if we voted out we would rejoin the single European trading block. If he is being truthful, the only way we can do this if via the Norway Switzerland method, where you agree to the conditions to free movement of trade and people and you pay into the union. Basically exactly the same as what we have now, although he seems to think we wouldn't come under the EU courts of human rights. Not sure how he's going to square that circle.
    For me, it's not really what this or that politician says, it's more about, we went in in 1975, I was only 14 so memory is a little sketchy, I do remember however, we had, a coal industry (we still import coal), we had a steel industry (we are importing steel by the shed load), we had a ship building industry, we had a car industry, we had a manufacturing base almost the envy of the world, we had council homes for those who needed them, Joe Bloggs could afford to get on the property ladder on 2.5 x his earnings backed up with 1 x the partners, socialist politicians were generally socialists, we were in control of our utilities, the next nuclear power station is being built by the French, possibly funded by the Chinese, youth were not on the scrap heap at 17, opportunities for apprentices and not encouraged to go to uni for a degree as a check out operative in TESCO, we traded with the rest of the world and Europe, and Llanrumney had the best firm in Cardiff by a distance, lots of bad things as well, but greed on unprecedented levels since joining the EU gravy, train Neil & Glenys the prime examples, we have had erosion of British workers rights whilst those in Europe get stronger, you cannot tell me that the French will not want to dump their shite wine in the UK if we exit or the farmers of the EU would stop exporting, politicians are trying to frighten the British public and forgetting we existed with it for a few years before!!!, I'm sure things would be tough for a few years on exit but worth it for a future of the next generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    For me, it's not really what this or that politician says, it's more about, we went in in 1975, I was only 14 so memory is a little sketchy, I do remember however, we had, a coal industry (we still import coal), we had a steel industry (we are importing steel by the shed load), we had a ship building industry, we had a car industry, we had a manufacturing base almost the envy of the world, we had council homes for those who needed them, Joe Bloggs could afford to get on the property ladder on 2.5 x his earnings backed up with 1 x the partners, socialist politicians were generally socialists, we were in control of our utilities, the next nuclear power station is being built by the French, possibly funded by the Chinese, youth were not on the scrap heap at 17, opportunities for apprentices and not encouraged to go to uni for a degree as a check out operative in TESCO, we traded with the rest of the world and Europe, and Llanrumney had the best firm in Cardiff by a distance, lots of bad things as well, but greed on unprecedented levels since joining the EU gravy, train Neil & Glenys the prime examples, we have had erosion of British workers rights whilst those in Europe get stronger, you cannot tell me that the French will not want to dump their shite wine in the UK if we exit or the farmers of the EU would stop exporting, politicians are trying to frighten the British public and forgetting we existed with it for a few years before!!!, I'm sure things would be tough for a few years on exit but worth it for a future of the next generations.
    you want to blame all of that on the EU? bit mental. how about the failing of successive governments a bit closer to home

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    you want to blame all of that on the EU? bit mental. how about the failing of successive governments a bit closer to home
    I didn't blame anyone Tommy, I only put a few lines together on my memories before the UK joined the EU, What are yours ? put your hatred of England, Labour, Conservative to one side for your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    you want to blame all of that on the EU? bit mental. how about the failing of successive governments a bit closer to home
    and greedy unions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    I didn't blame anyone Tommy, I only put a few lines together on my memories before the UK joined the EU, What are yours ? put your hatred of England, Labour, Conservative to one side for your answer.
    Nothing in your post is the fault of the EU, it's a failure of consecutive British governments both labour and Tory. If you think they're going to anything different when out of the EU you're looney.

    I don't know enough to vote either way but what scares me about this referendum is people like you who know less than nothing having such concrete opinions either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    For me, it's not really what this or that politician says, it's more about, we went in in 1975, I was only 14 so memory is a little sketchy, I do remember however, we had, a coal industry (we still import coal), we had a steel industry (we are importing steel by the shed load), we had a ship building industry, we had a car industry, we had a manufacturing base almost the envy of the world, we had council homes for those who needed them, Joe Bloggs could afford to get on the property ladder on 2.5 x his earnings backed up with 1 x the partners, socialist politicians were generally socialists, we were in control of our utilities, the next nuclear power station is being built by the French, possibly funded by the Chinese, youth were not on the scrap heap at 17, opportunities for apprentices and not encouraged to go to uni for a degree as a check out operative in TESCO, we traded with the rest of the world and Europe, and Llanrumney had the best firm in Cardiff by a distance, lots of bad things as well, but greed on unprecedented levels since joining the EU gravy, train Neil & Glenys the prime examples, we have had erosion of British workers rights whilst those in Europe get stronger, you cannot tell me that the French will not want to dump their shite wine in the UK if we exit or the farmers of the EU would stop exporting, politicians are trying to frighten the British public and forgetting we existed with it for a few years before!!!, I'm sure things would be tough for a few years on exit but worth it for a future of the next generations.
    This has more to do with globalisation and our own trickle up economics than the EU. In or out of the EU we'd still need to compete against other economies working for a lot less. And surely if workers' rights are stronger in Europe than here we should stay in? Given the recent desire to reduce benefits from the disabled, I'd trust the EU to look out for everyone more than Westminster.

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    The European Union is futile, corrupt and saturated with fraud, £12 billion a year down an assorted array of “criminal drains.” vote out out out.

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