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I think you will find the record shows that they did.
If the Lib Dems had kept their promise and voted for the long-overdue boundary changes then the conservative Party would have won by a lot more.
Why do people think it is fair that the conservatives need more than 10% more than the Labour party in order to win a General Election/
Labour has governed Wales for in excess of 17 years, it's a poor outcome there can be little doubt but, after 17 years of power the inept Labour machine could not convince the electorate that their time has benefited Wales, it's not real democracy, it's politics unfortunately. and Carwyn Jones should take 100% responsibility.
Plaid AM Rhun ap Iorwerth said: "The people of Wales decided by a narrow margin in terms of the number of seats, but by a hefty margin in terms of the popular vote, that they didn't want Labour to have majority control in the National Assembly for Wales.
Which part is winning when it suits, and losing when it doesn't?
**** me, it goes awful quiet on here sometimes doesn't it?
I cannot imagine what that might be
**** me, it goes awful quiet on here sometimes doesn't it?
I cannot imagine why that might be
Both Plaid and Labour are minority parties, no one won a majority so Leanne is well within her rights to put herself forward. However to say no deal has been done with UKIP and the Tories is a downright lie, a bit of honesty wouldn't go a miss. Plaid are all about power, they will do anything for power and if it means doing a deal with the devil then so be it.
The events today will hang over Plaid for a very long time.
But even though the Conservatives are the largest party in Westminster apparently (According to some on here) they do not have that right.
Can we clarify when it is right and when it is wrong.
I draw your attention to the Plaid staement I previously posted above.
The 'right' so many people talk of are not 'rights' at all. They are privilages and aspirations our fathers and forebears won by fighting for them. All this rubbish about a person having a 'right' to anything is PC bollox.
Now I'm a reacist or a bigot again for saying that.
The Tories have every right to govern in Westminster. Where have I said differently?
The "right" as you put it is that the largest party governs - alone, in coalition or a confidence and supply agreement. As a minimum that meand the largest party occupy the top position, be it prime minister, first minister or whatever.
No idea what your rant about "PC bollux" or "reacist (sic)" or "bigot" has to do with anything.
I don't think I ever said you personally did.
But many on here believe it. It is OK when it suits and not OK when it doesn't. It is called left wing democracy where I live. (Except the 'left wing' they refer to are actually right wing conservatives. (With a small c))
By the way, thanks for hi-lighting the typo (sic). I will remember that. we all make mistakes - - eventually.
Have a good night.
I don't think the largest party ever has a divine right to rule. If a party has 40% of the seats but can not command the confidence of the other 60% of the seats and parties two and three form 30% and 21% of the seats respectively I see no reason why two and three could not form a coalition.
However in this situation Plaid are just playing silly buggers. I think they should be careful, they're more likely to galvanise Labour to refuse to work with them at all rather than force them back around the negotiating table.