Gender Change................

[DP1]

Seems to be the new thing on the block at the moment.

Don't understand it myself but if they want to change just get on with it and pay for it themselves - stop coming on TV and telling us all about it.

We then get the celebrities saying "how brave" these people are etc -


Wonder what the next new trend will be - people wanting to be animals!!! - crazy world we live in

[Steve R]

Seems to be the new thing on the block at the moment.

Don't understand it myself but if they want to change just get on with it and pay for it themselves - stop coming on TV and telling us all about it.

We then get the celebrities saying "how brave" these people are etc -


Wonder what the next new trend will be - people wanting to be animals!!! - crazy world we live in

I see what you did there.

[DP1]

[Pearcey3]

Why does it bother you so much? It doesn't affect you or your life.

[DP1]

[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4627819]Why does it bother you so much? It doesn't affect you or your life.[/QUOt


It does when they want the NHS to pay

[Mrs Steve R]

Seems to be the new thing on the block at the moment.

Don't understand it myself but if they want to change just get on with it and pay for it themselves - stop coming on TV and telling us all about it.

We then get the celebrities saying "how brave" these people are etc -


Wonder what the next new trend will be - people wanting to be animals!!! - crazy world we live in

That's next on the agenda don't worry about that, anything that goes against the norm is promoted these days
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/s...the-human-pups


I've seen the whole transgender toilet thing causing many arguments, do you think schools should have mixed-sex toilets?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/educa...-a3217711.html

[Pearcey3]

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Why does it bother you so much? It doesn't affect you or your life.[/QUOt


It does when they want the NHS to pay

So what are your thoughts about people being treated for !ung cancer,drug addiction, alcoholism,car accidents caused by human error,injuries sustained in fights etc etc?

[DP1]

That's next on the agenda don't worry about that, anything that goes against the norm is promoted these days
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/s...the-human-pups


I've seen the whole transgender toilet thing causing many arguments, do you think schools should have mixed-sex toilets?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/educa...-a3217711.html

No - should leave things as they are, just pampering to many do gooders wishes/agendas

[DP1]

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So what are your thoughts about people being treated for !ung cancer,drug addiction, alcoholism,car accidents caused by human error,injuries sustained in fights etc etc?

Haven't heard of anyone dying for not having their bits removed

[adz-a32]

[QUOTE=DP1;4627820]

Why does it bother you so much? It doesn't affect you or your life.[/QUOt


It does when they want the NHS to pay

But it isn't their fault if their identity is different to their birth

[surge]

That's next on the agenda don't worry about that, anything that goes against the norm is promoted these days
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/s...the-human-pups


I've seen the whole transgender toilet thing causing many arguments, do you think schools should have mixed-sex toilets?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/educa...-a3217711.html

What's the argument against also having gender neutral toilets? For some that's just what the disabled loos are used for.

The major problems will start when teachers are dragged over social media for calling someone by the wrong pronoun and when speakers who have a slightly different opinion on gender issues are banned from speaking in public.

[adz-a32]

Seems to be the new thing on the block at the moment.

Don't understand it myself but if they want to change just get on with it and pay for it themselves - stop coming on TV and telling us all about it.

We then get the celebrities saying "how brave" these people are etc -


Wonder what the next new trend will be - people wanting to be animals!!! - crazy world we live in

Ignorance is a choice, and we definitely have someone wanting to be ignorant

[Pearcey3]

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Haven't heard of anyone dying for not having their bits removed

Perhaps they would be suicidal if they didn't have the op. It's not something I understand and don't know why someone would want to change sex but for that reason who am I to judge?

[Steve R]

What's the argument against also having gender neutral toilets? For some that's just what the disabled loos are used for.

The major problems will start when teachers are dragged over social media for calling someone by the wrong pronoun and when speakers who have a slightly different opinion on gender issues are banned from speaking in public.

Everyone knows Disabled Toilets are just for shagging girls in.

[DP1]

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But it isn't their fault if their identity is different to their birth

But where does it stop?....................The NHS is overstretched and should not have to cover procedures such as this - if these people want to change then they should pay

[Pearcey3]

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But where does it stop?....................The NHS is overstretched and should not have to cover procedures such as this - if these people want to change then they should pay

So should somebody smoking 60 fags a day pay for their healthcare?

[DP1]

Ignorance is a choice, and we definitely have someone wanting to be ignorant

.................................................. ...............and many, many more wanting to be the next "news" headline

[Pearcey3]

Do you think that's why people change gender...to make the news? I don't.

[Mrs Steve R]

What's the argument against also having gender neutral toilets? For some that's just what the disabled loos are used for.

The major problems will start when teachers are dragged over social media for calling someone by the wrong pronoun and when speakers who have a slightly different opinion on gender issues are banned from speaking in public.

Gender neutral toilets are not what is causing the problems, the argument is that it is their civil rights to use existing female toilets and if you don't agree you are a bigot apparently.

[DP1]

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So should somebody smoking 60 fags a day pay for their healthcare?

Someone who smokes could actually argue that they do through the tax paid etc - personally I have extra cover through work and on an individual basis

[Heathblue]

Everyone knows Disabled Toilets are just for shagging girls in.

Yes, and if you have the temerity to dissent against it, be prepared for the backlash

[DP1]

Not all - but there seems to be a significant increase in the stories etc - when I compare them to stories of kids dying from lack of water/food etc it just gets me rather annoyed.

As i said if they want it that bad, save up

[surge]

Do you think that's why people change gender...to make the news? I don't.

That may depend on whether they are people or Ted Cruz supporting publicity monsters.

Changing gender does not necessarily make you a good spokesperson for gender issues, but its crass to undermine decades of potential turmoil unless one knows exactly what they've been through.

[adz-a32]

Gender neutral toilets are not what is causing the problems, the argument is that it is their civil rights to use existing female toilets and if you don't agree you are a bigot apparently.

'Apparently', no its true

[adz-a32]

[QUOTE=DP1;4627835]

But where does it stop?....................The NHS is overstretched and should not have to cover procedures such as this - if these people want to change then they should pay

So basically, for someone to be their true selves, they would have to pay?