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Thread: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Just outside Philadelphia there are little towns called Brynmawr, Bala, St Davids its a landscape very similar to Wales.
    i Found an old Cinema there full from top to bottom with Northern Soul Singles (it's still there if any of you vinyl junkies) collect that stuff.

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    The other names I get, but is Floyd a Welsh name?

  3. #28

    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    The other names I get, but is Floyd a Welsh name?
    Just what I read here:

    http://www.data-wales.co.uk/plantations.htm

    In fact, I might add another Welsh name to his list. I wonder if many people are aware that the name "Floyd" has a Welsh origin. This was originally a descriptive element in early Welsh names, in the form "Llwyd" meaning "grey" or sometimes "brown". Medieval scribes not of Welsh origin had trouble spelling this and it was often written as "Lloyd", or in an attempt to reproduce the singular "Ll" sound of Welsh as "Floyd".



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    Once watched a documentary on rich Welsh making money from iron and coal becoming USA landowners . And the children slaves born on their land would take their owners surnames in the absence of a father's name.
    Another interesting fact a lot of Welsh made steel helped form USA war machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Just what I read here:

    http://www.data-wales.co.uk/plantations.htm

    In fact, I might add another Welsh name to his list. I wonder if many people are aware that the name "Floyd" has a Welsh origin. This was originally a descriptive element in early Welsh names, in the form "Llwyd" meaning "grey" or sometimes "brown". Medieval scribes not of Welsh origin had trouble spelling this and it was often written as "Lloyd", or in an attempt to reproduce the singular "Ll" sound of Welsh as "Floyd".


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  6. #31

    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Questions in the title.
    I know this one.

    During slavery blacks did not have surnames. They were lucky in some instances to have first names. Indeed when black people became free they took the names from the white people who did not treat them abysmally and many of them were Welsh settlers for whom slavery was abhorrent. They still had to work for white people but as free men. Many walked away from the plantations and found work with decent people as bosses.

    The Welsh.

    .....there's your answer.

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Questions in the title.

    How many black Americans have Welsh surnames?

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by goslow View Post
    How many black Americans have Welsh surnames?
    4

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    4
    Four people or four families?

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    Turning this on its head for research purposes: http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys...2#.V0cRVPkrJ1t

    D'andre Ladonalds Davidson

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    While on a long weekend in Pembrokeshire, we stumbled on Solva and were amazed that such a small harbour was a jumping-off point for voyages to America. £3 in 1848, but travellers had to provide their food.


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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    I am reminiscing of Ali G asking some old time miner why they sent the brothers down the mines

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOZlJiOvXsU

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Question I have will they be wearing their welsh tops during the Euro's ?

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Questions in the title.
    Because of the typical racist english press.
    Most Welsh people are named after black slaves really.

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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by herberthuw View Post
    Question I have will they be wearing their welsh tops during the Euro's ?

    Brilliant


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    Re: Why do so many black families in the US have Welsh surnames?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Midget View Post
    While on a long weekend in Pembrokeshire, we stumbled on Solva and were amazed that such a small harbour was a jumping-off point for voyages to America. £3 in 1848, but travellers had to provide their food.

    Blimey, there's no shop in Lower Solva ..


    Another Solva factoid - The name is generally thought to be Viking in origin, probably from 'Sol Vo' which meant sunny fiord.
    Those Viking lads must have been lucky with the weather ;)

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