Reply With QuoteRIP - The Greatest.
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I'm sure many will remember his fights before wall to wall TV, middle of the night, to listen to his fight on some dodgy radio broadcast (BBC), the audio floating in and out, the greatest? without a doubt, sad news but not unexpected after recent reports. R.I.P
RIP - The Greatest.
Simply the Best.RIP Muhammad.
RIP to the greatest.
Would knob head Trump say "All Muslims out of the USA" today? RIP to one of the men of all time not just the 20th century. In the 60s he seemed to fighting every few months, heavyweights fight so infrequently nowadays. Liston, Patterson, Folley, Williams, Chuvalo, London, Cooper, Ellis, etc etc the opponents just roll off the tongue, he even gave others a moment of fame.
Some fantastic tributes being paid on the BBC news.
He was a legend already when I was a kid fist watching his fights for free (except of course the price of a TV license!) and I shall never forget the Rumble in the jungle where he had "no chance" against a giant... much like Liston except Ali was now 32, slower and on his way down.
Harry Carpenters commentary still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck!
RIP "THE Greatest"
I couldn't name the current Heavyweight Champion. But in the 60s and 70s heavyweight boxers were household names - Frazier, Foreman, Norton and the rest, but the biggest name of them all, Muhammed Ali. He was the most recognisable, most famous man on the planet. Even I was a boxing fan in those days. I have no interest these days. Not just a great boxer, but a fabulous human being. RIP.
I don't often agree with you but on this you are spot on in all you say.Originally Posted by jackrabbit
RIP Muhammad Ali - a great loss to the world
Good summary.
I think that - back then - the less confusing 'levels' and belts set-up, and our limited TV channel options contributed to making us all boxing 'fans', but there is no doubt that major boxing contests, esp. heavyweight used to be a truly national social event.
And Ali was the king. The undisputed king.
One of the worlds first truly global megastars. Recognised anywhere and everywhere. And an activist for positive change.
Shook the world.
Great man.
RIP
Yep and back then the best heavyweights were superb. Ken Norton was a fabulous boxer who was so under rated. Joe Frazier was incredible. Foreman
was terrifying. I never understood though why Ali was so unpleasant towards Smokin Joe. Frazier wasn't the brightest but he was a decent man and didn't deserve the stuff Ali said about him.
The Rumble in the Jungle took place on 29 October 1974 - it was a Tuesday and I'm 90% sure it wasn't televised. In fact, my recollection is that the first time the fight was shown was five days later on Grandstand on 2 November. In those days, Football Focus was shown at about the same time it is now and then there'd often be some boxing on at about 12.45, so I figured the Ali/Foreman fight would be on at that time. Instead, they just kept on talking about how it would be on shortly and it was about 2 o clock by the time it started.
Back in those days, there was no way I would miss a City home game come hell or high water, but, even so, I chose to watch the fight rather than catch my normal bus for that afternoon's match with Sunderland. Luckily my dad agreed to drive me to Ninian Park and it must have been about ten to three by the time the coverage had finished. Saturday afternoon traffic might was not as bad back then as it is now, but it was still about twenty past three by the time I got into the ground and so I missed a significant portion of what might well have been City's best display of that miserable relegation season as they recorded a 2-0 win over a team that would go on to be promoted, but I never doubted for one second that I had made the right decision - that's how much World Heavyweight title fights, especially those involving Ali, meant back then.
"I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion.
We as Muslims have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda. They have alienated many from learning about Islam. True Muslims know or should know that it goes against our religion to try and force Islam on anybody.
Speaking as someone who has never been accused of political correctness, I believe that our political leaders should use their position to bring understanding about the religion of Islam and clarify that these misguided murderers have perverted people's views on what Islam really is."
Muhammad Ali.
Agree Joe IMO was bullied by Ali and I think his abuse alienated some. I remember being in Joe's corner, so to speak, for one of his fights after a barrage of abuse. He knew that Joe could beat him and would try everything to unsettle an opponent.
He did have his faults but who hasn't?
He definitely got some decisions by being who he was and talking like he did (vs Ken Norton being one)... at the end of the day he got the job done.
I would concur that with TOBW that the Rumble wasn't live on TV, tho it would have been on the radio.
Being a school night, I wouldn't have been allowed to stay up and listen to it and even if I was, I'd have fallen asleep before it came on!
It was all that was talked about though in junior school and by the time you got to watch it it seemed like you were there.
These were the early 70's when the white dot came on at midnight (unless it was a Friday where a Hammer film might go on 'til 1.30pm!)
Yep I had always been a big Ali fan but I watched a documentary about him and Frazier and it did make me view him differently. He turned a lot of black people off Frazier for no reason. He was though a great man in many other ways and none of us are perfect.
I seem to recall the BBC showing recordings of the big fights on Friday and Saturday nights.
I remember listening to the Rumble on the radio, I'm sure.
Jeez how 'primitive', yet somehow 10x more exhilarating (or so it seems ).
Remember when Ali went into a casino to hassle Liston and Liston pulled a gun out and started firing it all over the place as Ali scarpered? Looked staged but was still pretty mental.
Found it:
Liston died in 1970 in mysterious circumstances. He certainly had some dodgy acquaintances.
A true legend.
RIP Muhammad Ali
At first I thought this was another of your wind ups - that was a bit crazy! As you said, perhaps it was staged ... blanks or not, you can't go firing off a gun in a crowded place without looking at some kind of sentence.
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above is the one photo of Ali you will not see in the mainstream media.
The great man showing his support for the people of Palestine.
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