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Do we really want these people, or those that think like them, in this country?
Over 1000 so called 'honour' killings just this year. It is they way they are taught.That is why there are problems like Bradford and other places. It is the way they are brought up and educated. Whether they were born here or not, their family teaches them these morals. Women for them are merely possessions to be used bought and sold.
And what bothers me is they have no desire what so ever to change.
If they want to live in these countries with these laws and values, then they should stay there, not try to bring that country here.
This case occurred in rural Pakistan , these ppl would struggle to enter the UK anyway and it's really far away. A vast majority of us believe women should have rights and Pakistan has many prominent women.Originally Posted by xsnaggle
And you used the word 'educated', well educated ppl in Pakistan tend to be more progressive with regards to women's rights
What you saying then ?
It`s o.k. as long as it`s in their own countries ?
Lets start by keeping it out of our country .
Maybe later we will think about an International moral crusade.
So no real concern for the women then?
It is never OK.
But if they cannot be stopped I do not want them in my country treating their own women like that, and then thinking they can treat young vulnerable British girls the same way.
Adz, you say "A vast Majority". Why not all??
What has being rural got to do with anything. Are you telling me we have to forgive them because they live in the countryside? Where did the other 1000 girls live?
OK . How would you go about rectifying it?
Send them a stern letter?
I don`t know the laws in the countries theses people come from I just know that what they are doing here is wrong and therefore these poor women MAY have a better chance than back in other countries.
It is against the law in Pakistan but all the 'elders' have said they are not interested in the law and will preserve their old ways.
Read the full article and the attachments and maybe learn something.
I know a few people who are not interested in the law and they have persevered with their old ways and gone to prison.
And probably convinced even more people whilst they were there to think the same way.
Were they Muslim, and I know you did not say they were, people might say that putting them in prison is probably the faste track to 'radicalising ' them.
but hey, what do I know?
i`m leaving the thread you had no concerns at all for the women you just wanted to spew your bile.And probably convinced even more people whilst they were there to think the same way.
Were they Muslim, and I know you did not say they were, people might say that putting them in prison is probably the faste track to 'radicalising ' them.
but hey, what do I know?
Which translates as "I have no answer"
I wonder what the total figure is in the Uk,compared to domestic abuse and killings of women to non muslims
I think we are not judging apples with apples here.I wonder what the total figure is in the Uk,compared to domestic abuse and killings of women to non muslims
Domestic abuse happens everywhere, no question, and the are probably as many abused husbands as there are abused wives.
But we are talking about a whole society that thinks it is acceptable to burn a female member of your family to death because she marries someone you don't like.
Now you can be as liberal and/or PC as you please but tell me honestly, can you find any way that you can condone this?
Where did i say i did condone this,and i am not a liberal pc as you put it so do not put me in button hole pls.I just thought the article was not correct,my opinion
I don't want people who kill other people in this country.
I didn't think you lived here anyway?
I am not sure of the point of this thread.
Perhaps the opening poster could tell us which of us would condone the burning to death of a female. It's barbaric and none of us want that kind of scumbag in this country.
I could tie them up in knots, they'll be looking sheepishly at the ground speechless in no time.
maybe that would help
You have lost me on the logic of your post to be honest.
On what basis do you believe that the people that carried out these atrocious acts are trying to even come to this country let alone " bring that country here"?
Coz every group has some idiots. That always happens. Just like with the natives, a vast majority are not racist but there are some racist ppl such as Britain First.
Rural Pakistan has slight differences in culture, just like in America, some rural ppl are extremely unprogressive, it doesn't make the whole of America unprogressive. That said, not all ppl in rural Pakistan are like this. And it is hard for the average Pakistani to get into the UK anyways. 'Honour' killings are always wrong but plz don't twist my words for your agenda
'Honour' killings are not Islamic, it contradicts the teachings of the Qur'anAnd probably convinced even more people whilst they were there to think the same way.
Were they Muslim, and I know you did not say they were, people might say that putting them in prison is probably the faste track to 'radicalising ' them.
but hey, what do I know?
Same rights as men
hang on a minute
thats fine aslong as they continue to do the cooking, cleaning and washing up
Pakistan isn't the safest country in the world and some areas are pretty dangerous but it has more progress than ppl think. The media portrays Pakistan in a negative light. Your logic is flawed tho, while I cannot deny sexism exists , in both the Western world as well as Pakistan, Pakistan is less sexist than ppl think and Islam isnt sexist. These killings are wrong but compare 1000 to Pakistan's total population. And you cannot lump Pakistan as one culture, different parts have different culture.
And fyi, I am Pakistani and I have been there fairly recently and keep in touch wih ppl and events so don't play that card on me
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