Orlando nightclub mass shooting

[Ainsley Harriott]

I was very surprised to see on the news that with 50 dead, this makes it the deadliest mass shooting in US history.

...and yet they claim to have a "god-given" right to bear arms...spastics.

RIP to the dead.

Anyone offering odds on the US government to be able to reform any gun law in any way ever?

[TH63]

I was very surprised to see on the news that with 50 dead, this makes it the deadliest mass shooting in US history.

...and yet they claim to have a "god-given" right to bear arms...spastics.

RIP to the dead.

Anyone offering odds on the US government to be able to reform any gun law in any way ever?

Shocking. RIP to the dead.

The problem is, American Peresidents swear an oath to defend the constitution, part of that constitution is the right to bear arms, so probably political suicide to even go there.

The problem is also that the genie is out of the bottle. There are millions of guns out there, so even if they were to be banned, who's going to try and get them handed in? There's is also a huge arms industry.

But my personal opinion, is while I can almost understand the desire to own a hand gun for self defence, why anyone needs a military grade assault rifle is beyond me.

[Ainsley Harriott]

Weren't assault rifles (attempted to be) banned by the Obama administration? The National Rifle Association (a group you'd always love to be in power on your country) blocked this move by Obama.

The 2nd ammendment to the US consitution allows the right to bear arms (an ammendment the the original, remember) as part of a "well-regulated militia again to the tyranny of government.

2nd ammendment....out of 27.

Some of those ammendments to the original have gone against the original constitution, and some have gone against the last ammendment (see prohibition in the '20s).

There's nothing stopping the American people outlawing firearms apart from themselves.

[tigerbaybluebird]

R.i.p all Who died,

not including the gunman, he can rot

[jamieccfc]

I don't know how many people need to be shot before they wake up and realise they need better gun control out there rather than let any tom dick or harry carry a leathal weapon shocking but not surprising RIP to all

[goslow]

The religion of peace and tolerance strikes again.

[jeepster]

The religion of peace and tolerance strikes again.

For ****s sake give it a rest.

[Ainsley Harriott]

The religion of peace and tolerance strikes again.

In fairness, this one seems to be an Afghan guy who just happens to despise gays, and so felt the need to slaughter them (rather than someone who believes that the almighty Allah has commanded him to kill the infidel).

[goslow]

In fairness, this one seems to be an Afghan guy who just happens to despise gays, and so felt the need to slaughter them (rather than someone who believes that the almighty Allah has commanded him to kill the infidel).

His book of fairytales tells him that gays are too be killed so I'd say it's very much to do with his rancid death cult.

[goslow]

For ****s sake give it a rest.

Why,does the truth upset you?

[Richyrich]

To be fair, he did pledge allegiance to IS before the killing apparently.

Imagine if the killers of Lee Rigby had easy access to assault rifles...

[jeepster]

Why,does the truth upset you?

no it is the utter ****ing trash you post, knob

[tigerbaybluebird]

Goslow The truth is your islamophobic.

I said in a thread that "All the English are smashing the place up". I was wrong I should have said "Some of the English".

You Get it ball bag

[Ainsley Harriott]

To be fair, he did pledge allegiance to IS before the killing apparently.

Imagine if the killers of Lee Rigby had easy access to assault rifles...

Oops. Sorry, I didn't see that piece of the news when posting.

Apologies to Goslow...seems the big book of fairytales is at fault yet again.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

[adz-a32]

His book of fairytales tells him that gays are too be killed so I'd say it's very much to do with his rancid death cult.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...y-in-the-quran

The Qur'an does not say stuff about LGBTs

[adz-a32]

Oops. Sorry, I didn't see that piece of the news when posting.

Apologies to Goslow...seems the big book of fairytales is at fault yet again.

Daesh are not Muslims tho, how is killing innocent people and committing suicide, two of the worst sins, encouraged in the Holy Qur'an?

[adz-a32]

RIP to the dead

[goslow]

Goslow The truth is your islamophobic.

I said in a thread that "All the English are smashing the place up". I was wrong I should have said "Some of the English".

You Get it ball bag

I don't fear muslims,I pity them,like I pity all the weak minded who have been brainwashed.

[goslow]

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...y-in-the-quran

The Qur'an does not say stuff about LGBTs

Abu Dawud (4462) - The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.".

Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one's wife).

Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman."

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."

Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did

[Richyrich]

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...y-in-the-quran

The Qur'an does not say stuff about LGBTs

Most Imams disagree with you.

Adz's why do you even identify as a muslim? Most of your views seem to be a direct contradiction to it. Is it family pressure?

[goslow]

no it is the utter ****ing trash you post, knob

Dry your eyes princess.

[adz-a32]

The awkward moment when no-one reads the article that I posted

My views are not a contradiction, Islam is a progressive religion, just is that you lot don't know anything about it and are making assumptions. Seriously, do you lot have nothing better to do rather than bash a religion to score points? I am Muslim coz I wanna be one, not due to any pressures. My advice is to let go of your Islamophobic prejudices and don't listen to the media or extreme viewpoints

[adz-a32]

Most Imams disagree with you.

Adz's why do you even identify as a muslim? Most of your views seem to be a direct contradiction to it. Is it family pressure?

What are you on? And I believe in a God, that's the main reason why I'm Muslim

[Ainsley Harriott]

Daesh are not Muslims tho, how is killing innocent people and committing suicide, two of the worst sins, encouraged in the Holy Qur'an?

Never in my time on this message board have I understood why you seem to hold the holy decision on who's Muslim and who isn't...