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Thread: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

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    What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Looking at the race for best third placed team

    Group A

    Romania v Albania - Anything other than a Romanian win or a huge Albanian win.

    Group C
    A heavy Northern Irish defeat to Germany.

    Group D
    Czech Republic v Turkey - Anything other than a Czech Republic win

    Group E
    Belgium and Italy to not lose their games to Sweden and Ireland respectively

    Group F
    Hungary to beat Portugal (would be great to see Ronaldo out before Iceland).

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    What we need is for our manager to set us up to go out and beat Russia and not play for a draw and possibly we might even win the group especially where England think Slovakia are just a push over

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    What we need is for our manager to set us up to go out and beat Russia and not play for a draw and possibly we might even win the group especially where England think Slovakia are just a push over
    It is in Wales' own hands to be fair.

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    Thanks for that BIS, has saved me spending the day working out the permutations!!!

    Yes, it's in our hands and a point should be enough.

    Slight disadvantage being the second group to complete. Let's hope we're not biting our finger nails until 10.00pm on Wednesday.

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    Yep thanks for posting that. I thought your post on this was a like premature last week. Not now. We now know who needs what. Pot E looks our best hope followed by C and then A. We could have done without Northern Ireland scoring a second goal.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Here's another interpretation of how it could go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Here's another interpretation of how it could go
    That's pretty sobering reading. I really hope the lads can get some sort of result against Russia.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Here's another interpretation of how it could go

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    Group F should be OR not AND.

    If Hungary beat Portugal, Portugal are left on 2 points - Iceland 2, Austria 1. If Austria beat Iceland, it will be Hungary 7, Austria 3, Iceland 2, Portugal 2. If Austria and Iceland draw, it is Hungary 7, Iceland 3, Portugal 2, Austria 2. If Iceland win, Hungary 7, Iceland 5, Portugal 2, Austria 2.

    So, Group F only requires Hungary to beat Portugal.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Albania are beating Romania at the moment, if that stays the same that'll be one ticked off before we kick a ball.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother View Post
    Albania are beating Romania at the moment, if that stays the same that'll be one ticked off before we kick a ball.
    So that's ticked off... One more to go...

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    So that's ticked off... One more to go...
    As long as we don't lose by three or more goals!!!!

    I assume it'll be goal difference followed by goals scored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    As long as we don't lose by three or more goals!!!!

    I assume it'll be goal difference followed by goals scored?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    As long as we don't lose by three or more goals!!!!

    I assume it'll be goal difference followed by goals scored?
    Yes.

    18.03 The four best third-placed teams are determined according to the following criteria applied, in the order given, to the final tournament group matches: a. higher number of points obtained; b. superior goal difference; c. higher number of goals scored; d. fair play conduct in the final tournament as defined in Annex C.5.1; e. position in the UEFA national team coefficient rankings (see Annex B.1.2.b).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    Yes.

    18.03 The four best third-placed teams are determined according to the following criteria applied, in the order given, to the final tournament group matches: a. higher number of points obtained; b. superior goal difference; c. higher number of goals scored; d. fair play conduct in the final tournament as defined in Annex C.5.1; e. position in the UEFA national team coefficient rankings (see Annex B.1.2.b).
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...es-third-place

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post

    Reports are saying England could rest up to 6 players for tonight's game with Slovakia. Massive gamble that is considering they'd be looking to win the group by beating the Slovaks. old Woy must think it's won already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill Stants brother View Post
    Reports are saying England could rest up to 6 players for tonight's game with Slovakia. Massive gamble that is considering they'd be looking to win the group by beating the Slovaks. old Woy must think it's won already.
    It sounds worse than it is. Two of the changes are obvious - Sturridge and Vardy start. He's changing the fullbacks, but bringing in Clyne and Bertrand who are both very quick and decent enough. Rooney being rested is about the only one to raise any eyebrows.

    Not so much a gamble as improving the team, I'm sorry to say.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Don't apologise, it's okay.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by Norms76 View Post
    Don't apologise, it's okay.
    I'm sorry because I wish they were putting out a shite team.

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    Re: What Wales need (if they finish 3rd on 3 points)

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It sounds worse than it is. Two of the changes are obvious - Sturridge and Vardy start. He's changing the fullbacks, but bringing in Clyne and Bertrand who are both very quick and decent enough. Rooney being rested is about the only one to raise any eyebrows.

    Not so much a gamble as improving the team, I'm sorry to say.
    Added to that you have players coming in wanting to stake a claim on starting places for the knockout stages

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