The one thing that's really upsetting about the brexit

[Croesy Blue]

That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them

Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.

Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.

There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).

If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.

[Maccy Blue]

That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them

Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.

Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.

There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).

If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.

Hear, hear.

[Croesy Blue]

I meant live abroad* not love but if anything you can add that in too. So many potential future friends and marriages could be wiped out by this vote.

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

I meant live abroad* not love but if anything you can add that in too. So many potential future friends and marriages could be wiped out by this vote.

Possibly even current. Depends what our new human rights will be.

We may very well be the first generation to say "It was better in my day". The world is a smaller place for the next generation of British people.

[Packerman]

Possibly even current. Depends what our new human rights will be.

We may very well be the first generation to say "It was better in my day". The world is a smaller place for the next generation of British people.

every generation looks back with rose tinted specs, nothing new there

[adz-a32]

That so many of the next generation could have had the opportunity to study, love and work easily in 27 other countries taken away from them mostly by a generation who have had all these benefits available to them

Working abroad is one of the best experiences I've had in my life, learning new languages, meeting new friends and having new experiences that you wouldn't simply by living in the uk.

Also the potential for top jobs to be lost in this country, coming from the valleys I've already seen the effect jobs disappearing can have on a location a lot of places have changed from being vibrant close nit communities to glorified commuter towns.

There's the possibility that things might not change if a decent deal is negotiated by the next PM (are you happy having a far right Tory negotiating with your children's future?).

If you had a good reason for voting for leaving the EU fair enough, although I'm still yet to hear one reason that isn't conjecture, hate filled, conspiracy based or just wanting to return to the chocolate box uk of the persons youth. If you voted leave without having a good reason for it you deserve every bit of anger that comes your way, especially if it's coming from the younger generation who could have just had 1000s of opportunities pulled from under them by one selfish narrow minded vote.

^THIS

We feel that the older generation has screwed us over again

[adz-a32]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

[mike downtownabbey]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

L O L

[Barry Dragon]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

Good post Adz.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

And don't forget several recessions they experienced, high unemployment, negative equity, hardly any access to university education and endowment policies that fell way short of their targets. The average Joe has little control over the economy whenever he was born.

[Packerman]

And don't forget several recessions they experienced, high unemployment, negative equity, hardly any access to university education and endowment policies that fell way short of their targets. The average Joe has little control over the economy whenever he was born.

^^^^ this,

[Thoth]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

[Llanedeyrnblue]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

Please tell me how you know how a certain age group voted in the referendum?

[Kiffa]

There are stats everywhere about how age groups voted

[Barry Dragon]

Please tell me how you know how a certain age group voted in the referendum?

Because they keep interviewing old people on the news and they are all out. Because of polls, because of official stats. Granted not all of them, would be voting out but its a large majority.

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

Please tell me how you know how a certain age group voted in the referendum?

A YouGov poll put 18-24 year olds as 75% Remain. 25-49 56% Remain. 50-64 44% Remain. 65+ 39% remain.

I don't know what the turnouts were across each group - we also know YouGov have been getting it wrong lately.

There are certainly more older voters than younger, because our country has an ageing population. That's why we need immigration - to pay for the pensions of the old, and the benefits of those unable to work.

[Llanedeyrnblue]

A YouGov poll put 18-24 year olds as 75% Remain. 25-49 56% Remain. 50-64 44% Remain. 65+ 39% remain.

I don't know what the turnouts were across each group - we also know YouGov have been getting it wrong lately.

There are certainly more older voters than younger, because our country has an ageing population. That's why we need immigration - to pay for the pensions of the old, and the benefits of those unable to work.

Oh I see that's the YouGov polls was that the same polls that had Remain to win at 52% to 48% the day before the referendum?

As for paying for the pensions of the old, they've been very thoughtless retiring, I mean whose going to make up the shortfall of the lost Tax and NI contributions that the paid throughout their working lives?

[lardy]

Oh I see that's the YouGov polls was that the same polls that had Remain to win at 52% to 48% the day before the referendum?

As for paying for the pensions of the old, they've been very thoughtless retiring, I mean whose going to make up the shortfall of the lost Tax and NI contributions that the paid throughout their working lives?

To be fair, even if they are 4% out as they were with the official one, then that still tells the same story.

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

Oh I see that's the YouGov polls was that the same polls that had Remain to win at 52% to 48% the day before the referendum?

As for paying for the pensions of the old, they've been very thoughtless retiring, I mean whose going to make up the shortfall of the lost Tax and NI contributions that the paid throughout their working lives?

Talk about selective responding.

Firstly - I admitted that, although they were the figures from YouGov, Yougov were hardly reliable during the referendum nor the general election.

Secondly - I did NOT say that pensioners were thoughtless retiring. What I am saying is that the UK population is ageing and, with a shortage of young "indigenous" people to sustain the taxes to pay the pensions you have to look for immigration to fill the gap.

[goslow]

Oh I see that's the YouGov polls was that the same polls that had Remain to win at 52% to 48% the day before the referendum?

As for paying for the pensions of the old, they've been very thoughtless retiring, I mean whose going to make up the shortfall of the lost Tax and NI contributions that the paid throughout their working lives?

Those same pensioners whose taxes paid for the welfare state that the whining,foot stamping,dummy spitting remainiac ****s were raised in.

[the other bob wilson]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

A shame that someone who, rightly, defends his religion on here against mean spirited people who deal in vague and sweeping generalisations should resort to using such soundbite and cliche filled stuff, which only makes him equally guilty when it comes to taking ill informed swipes at another section of society.

I may not have been the most enthusiastic of remain voters, but remain voter I was and I'm now of an age where I can use my senior citizens bus pass if I want to. More importantly, while I think we should have realised by now that political opinion polling should be treated with a fair degree of caution, I find the figures in that poll quite reassuring because remain voters in my age group (50-64) were only four per cent down on the national figure, while the 39% of over 65s who voted remain is two points higher than the number in all age groups which voted for the party whose leader tried to sort out it's mess over Europe by giving us the referendum in the first place in the last general election - in both cases, the remain votes among 50 pluses is higher than I would have predicted it to be beforehand.

Very good opening post in this thread by the way.

[Gofer Blue]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

What a ridiculous generalisation!

[blue matt]

"This is the last '**** you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die."

We also had good " glasto's "

you know, ones without Adele headlining on a saturday night

[adz-a32]

We also had good " glasto's "

you know, ones without Adele headlining on a saturday night

You know my opinion on what is the greatest Glasto...

[blue matt]

You know my opinion on what is the greatest Glasto...

2011 ? ? ?

when bowling for soup played ? ? ?