European Superstate Imminent?

[Wales-Bales]

Surely not?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...economies.html

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...erstate-Brexit

[Mrs Steve R]

We haven't avoided anything.. yet

[Wales-Bales]

We haven't avoided anything.. yet

My head can't keep up

[Mrs Steve R]

My head can't keep up

I wonder how many of the remain voters would want to remain in that? not sure I really want the answer tbh

[Wales-Bales]

I wonder how many of the remain voters would want to remain in that? not sure I really want the answer tbh

As long as the young people can live and work in Europe who cares about any consequences

Personally, I can't seeing this being true, surely the people in charge are not that mad

[Mrs Steve R]

As long as the young people can live and work in Europe who cares about any consequences

Personally, I can't seeing this being true, surely the people in charge are not that mad

Aren't they? I think you already know the answer to that.

[Rjk]

As long as the young people can live and work in Europe who cares about any consequences

Personally, I can't seeing this being true, surely the people in charge are not that mad

What's mad about it?

[Ainsley Harriott]

Surprising that France seem to be going along with this idea of a German-led super-state, considering they were the most against a 'neutral' Germany in the decades after WW2.

Someone should tell the Germans that the last time they tried to 'spread their influence' across the European continent, it didn't go down too kindly with The Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Poland etc etc...they shouldn't really be trying to alienate large swathes of Europe again.

[bobh]

Surprising that France seem to be going along with this idea of a German-led super-state, considering they were the most against a 'neutral' Germany in the decades after WW2.

Someone should tell the Germans that the last time they tried to 'spread their influence' across the European continent, it didn't go down too kindly with The Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Poland etc etc...they shouldn't really be trying to alienate large swathes of Europe again.

Not forgetting that much of Germany's current wealth has grown from assets of Jews and occupied countries in the ealy 40s.

Maybe their finances aren't all they're thought to be so they need to top them up.

[Ainsley Harriott]

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein EU...

[Croesy Blue]

Surely this should be huge news and not only be reported by the express and the mail though?

This sounds like it should be breaking news on the bbc and Sky and all the other dailies, but it isn't even mentioned.

[severncity]

Surely this should be huge news and not only be reported by the express and the mail though?

This sounds like it should be breaking news on the bbc and Sky and all the other dailies, but it isn't even mentioned.

Here is the plan as reported by Reuters and Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articl...ut-the-eu-does

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN0ZC0BQ

Maybe the BBC isn't as impartial as you'd fantasised?

[Rjk]

If there was an option on the referendum for deeper integration into Europe then I would have voted for that. I don't think it is a bad thing at all.

[Croesy Blue]

Yeah I'm not sure what the fuss is about either, what are thé negatives?

[severncity]

Yeah I'm not sure what the fuss is about either, what are thé negatives?

Imagine having your national budget decided in Berlin, Frankfurt and Brussels. Ask a Greek how they feel about that...

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Imagine having your national budget decided in Berlin, Frankfurt and Brussels. Ask a Greek how they feel about that...

I just asked a Greek and he said "better than having the budget decided by the crooks in Athens"

[Richyrich]

Imagine having your national budget decided in Berlin, Frankfurt and Brussels. Ask a Greek how they feel about that...

They seem to care a lot more about the poorer areas than our lot.

[tommy31]

Imagine having your national budget decided in Berlin, Frankfurt and Brussels. Ask a Greek how they feel about that...

Yeah haha, imagine having your budget decided in a foreign country. How embarrassing would that be... Oh.. Wait..

[severncity]

Yeah haha, imagine having your budget decided in a foreign country. How embarrassing would that be... Oh.. Wait..

I am a member of Plaid Cymru - I have been for years - and I voted leave. The party has been infiltrated by Brussels sympathisers. Why do you think that being ruled from Brussels would be any better than being ruled from London?

By the way, according to Lord Ashcroft's poll, a majority of Plaid voters chose Leave. Look at Table 7, Question 6 on page 26 of this link:

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-cont...l-tables-1.pdf

In fact, here's the evidence to save you looking:

image.jpg

Leanne is in shock. She knows she has no mandate. Get away from the echo-chamber and groupthink fascism of social media and you'll find that a majority of Wales' population wanted to leave the corrupt EU.

[tommy31]

I am a member of Plaid Cymru - I have been for years - and I voted leave. The party has been infiltrated by Brussels sympathisers. Why do you think that being ruled from Brussels would be any better than being ruled from London?

By the way, according to Lord Ashcroft's poll, a majority of Plaid voters chose Leave. Look at Table 7, Question 6 on page 26 of this link:

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-cont...l-tables-1.pdf

In fact, here's the evidence to save you looking:

image.jpg

Leanne is in shock. She knows she has no mandate. Get away from the echo-chamber and groupthink fascism of social media and you'll find that a majority of Wales' population wanted to leave the corrupt EU.

Generally speaking, the EU has been a lot better to Wales than the UK. That's why I think we were better within. Not to mention that the only thing that'll change will be our influence on the house, the payments and freedom of movement will be the same. I think the people have been sold a lie. It's a shame we couldn't see it before Thursday though.

[Catkins51]

A single army (which Cameron said would never happen)
One central bank
No control of Criminal Law system
EU wide taxation.
No border controls whatsoever.
WE would not have shared Sovereignty - WE WOULD HAVE NO SOVEREIGNTY

[Rjk]

A single army (which Cameron said would never happen)
One central bank
No control of Criminal Law system
EU wide taxation.
No border controls whatsoever.
WE would not have shared Sovereignty - WE WOULD HAVE NO SOVEREIGNTY

I'm not seeing the downside ?

Would citizens of a united states of Europe have more or less SOVEREIGNTY than those of the united states of America?

[Wales-Bales]

I'm not seeing the downside ?

Would citizens of a united states of Europe have more or less SOVEREIGNTY than those of the united states of America?

You do realize that once the United States of Europe project is complete, it then moves onto the United States of Europe, Asia and the Middle-East, followed by Africa. This is a globalist project. And they are not coming up to our level, we are going down to theirs. What do you thing the financial crisis and austerity is all about?

[Rjk]

You do realize that once the United States of Europe project is complete, it then moves onto the United States of Europe, Asia and the Middle-East, followed by Africa. This is a globalist project. And they are not coming up to our level, we are going down to theirs. What do you thing the financial crisis and austerity is all about?

Plenty more wild fantasy presented as fact again there.

[Croesy Blue]

Here is the plan as reported by Reuters and Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articl...ut-the-eu-does

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN0ZC0BQ

Maybe the BBC isn't as impartial as you'd fantasised?

I don't think the bbc is impartial, I think it's leans towards whoever the current government.

You seem a very hate filled man, I can't believe they let you teach kids.