Reply With Quoteif he stays there will be troubleOriginally Posted by Nelsonca61
and if he goes there will be double
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Should he stay or should he go ?
if he stays there will be trouble
and if he goes there will be double
I'm certain there will be a Labour leadership election once the PLP majority agree on one or more (probably one) anti-Corbyn candidates to put up against him.
Despite the constitutional arguments I'm fairly sure Corbyn will stand again.
Then it's down to the members and supporters. It will be a different type of election from last summer and I doubt Corbyn will be a first ballor winner (was 60%) like last time. There is massive resentment amongst the Labour electorate about the PLP coup - but also a fraying of the original Corbyn support, but as things stand now he is still favourite.
That may change if the big unions lose confidence in him. Publicly he still has their backing - but it sounds as if that may not be as clear cut behind closed doors.
It will turn into a leadership campaign about principle and pragmatism - who can best renew the Labour Party and reach out to lost and new supporters - and who can win.
Well at least it's keeping Woy out of the firing line.
Blessing in disguise for Woy.
Is this your opinion or is it a fact? How do you know?
It seems that this massive support he has amongst the labour electorate didn't seem to work in the Referendum. What makes you think it will work now?
Step up perhaps Angela Eagle , a brave appointment , I would suggest considering the blinkered views of many to civil partnership.
Others I would consider as good politicians are : Hilary Benn , Andy Burnham , Chuka Umunna , and Stephen Kinnock perhaps as an outsider, just don't know enough about him, comes across well on the media ,which unfortunately counts these days .
And where is David Miliband in all this I hear he potentially lined up for a "top" US government position if Hillary Clinton becomes president in January 2017 ,what a wasted opportunity for Labour , as him v a Bros would be fun and a potential win for labour ??
I feel though overall, and sadly this is the start of a break up within Labour , and the birth of two new parties.
Last edited by life on mars; 28-06-16 at 17:20.
Is this even about his performance during the referendum?
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...=1#post4642692
I meant the electorate for a Labour Party leader - the members, registered supporters and union supporters. The people who will decide.
I base my opinion only on what I have read on the interweb and in papers, seen on the TV, and on talking to Labour members in Sheffield and to representatives from the local Trades Council who are mostly rallying around Corbyn. They are not Momentum members. I may have a distorted picture of the mood and opinions of members/supporters across the UK, but I doubt it. I think Corbyn has lost some support since last September - but the PLP coup is seen by many as two fingers to the members and activists. If it had been done in a different way there may have been more support for a new leadership election and more openness to the idea that someone other than Corbyn is needed to lead a general election campaign.
I wonder who will be his Brutus,Watson or Mcdonnald (sp)
Don't forget the £3 tories,commies and socialist worker vermin.
A coup has been in the pipeline since the moment he became leader, the Blairites believe this is their moment.
I suspect they had their moment. Describe someone as 'Blairite' now and they are immediately less attractive a 'commodity'.
What a grand choice we have before us eh folks.
Huzzah.
Angela Eagle as the new leader? Dear God Labour might as well disband.
It's not about the electorate, it's about the Westminster bubble and the careers that exist around it. They are looking after themselves.
I hear you but he has proved in the last week he has no leadership qualities whatsoever, I am sure that a lot of people that voted for him are bitterly disappointed. What use is a leader if he cant fight his corner?
The fact it has even been suggested is a kind of "we still have no idea", i'm just flummoxed by it all, we desperately IMO, need a labour government, and the leader may not be the best leader but a leader that appeals to the public, it seems that the public doesn't vote on policy, but on looks, spin and bullshit, get it wrong and we may be stuck with the Tories for another 2 terms minimum, although this particular term post Brexit might be a poisoned chalice.
Yeah I agree. Labour are in a hell of a mess and have got to get it right. Burnham is one of the very few who can connect with the working class vote. Eagle would be a disaster.
very optimistic. Following the change in constituency numbers and scotland leaving, it could be a lot longer than that.
Are you trying to cheer me up Tommy by suggesting that from now till my grave i'll only see a Tory government :-(
unless there's a change to electoral system, following the two things i've mentioned I think it's likely they'll be around for a long old time, yes.
I fear you are probably right Tommy
This^^^
She will appeal to minority groups though, which is what Labour politics is all about these days. You have to be seen supporting some cause or other.
Can't stand the woman
Aha.
Maybe this is also about the imminent Chilcot report publication, and the notion that Jeremy C would speak his mind i.e. not support the notion that Blair's actions were just.
So they are closing in on him ahead of this, while also looking to save their butts?
Its a desperate and murky subject still. Maybe there is a bigger, unseen hand at work.
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