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Thread: GLAMMY

  1. #1591

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Glamorgan have just gone from 83-2 to 121-9 against a very ordinary Derbyshire team - this has to be our worst batting side ever.


    Can't see there being many counter-arguments Bob.

  2. #1592

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Glamorgan have just gone from 83-2 to 121-9 against a very ordinary Derbyshire team - this has to be our worst batting side ever.
    Actually not the worst batting performance today by a long way, Somerset hold that particular mantle. Crazy result!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45415238

  3. #1593

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    Can see us losing by about 150 runs tomorrow.

  4. #1594

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Can see us losing by about 150 runs tomorrow.
    temporarily saved by the weather, another calamity morning

  5. #1595

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    temporarily saved by the weather, another calamity morning
    Lost by 169 runs

  6. #1596

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    Delusional stuff from Robert Croft;-

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45447558

    Essentially, he's saying that, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, the policy is right. Perhaps he has a point, Durham have had to play a lot of youngsters after they were hit with financial problems, fines and points deductions following financial irregularities and a number of their best players departing. As a a result, they have had to throw a lot of youngsters into their first team to, basically, sink or swim and, all things considered, they are coping well.

    At Glamorgan, the policy to bring through the youngsters has been a deliberate one rather than one forced on them, but, in truth, it's fair to compare what's happened to them with how Durham are doing - Glamorgan are trailing the northern county by a distance. So, it seems there are two possible answers as to why - the first is that the north east just produces better cricketers than Wales and the second is that Glamorgan are much worse than Durham in turning talented youngsters into first performers - their development and coaching isn't good enough.

    I think there is an argument for saying Durham have a better core of young players to pick from than Glamorgan, but a look at our history says that there has usually been a fairly steady stream of Welsh players capable of playing first class cricket since we started playing county Championship cricket.

    The early figures of, for example, Donald, Carlson, Carey and Selman (who I know isn't Welsh) when they played for us indicated that they had the ability to do well in the county game, but look what happened to them when the first team coaches got their hands on them .

    I've been watching Glamorgan play for longer than any of the counties current coaching staff and I can tell them that this season's side is the worst I've seen when it comes to batting. The fact that Donald went from England Youth one day captain to not being good enough to get a place in this season's appalling batting side says so much - he doesn't seem to be blameless in this, but, by any standards, his game hasn't been "developed" by Glamorgan in the last two years. Carslon and Selman, despite being inconsistent, both showed promise before this season for me - with the former looking capable of developing into a good all round performer at county level and, possibly, higher, while the latter had already carried his bat twice and had won a game (Durham last season) for us virtually off his own bat. This time around though, Carlson has played the occasional good one day knock and got one big score in the four day game, while Selman is now dropped from the team with, I believe, a highest score of forty two for the season.

    How have these two players been developed by the club over the course of the 2018 season? In fact, how have any of the multitude of young players we've seen over the past few months been developed? Perhaps those in charge of coaching can tell us the name of one youngster who has played first class cricket this season who is a better player now than he was twelve months ago, because the figures say that there aren't any.

  7. #1597

    Re: GLAMMY

    21-5 inside the first hour of their latest (mis)match

  8. #1598

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Delusional stuff from Robert Croft;-

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45447558

    Essentially, he's saying that, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, the policy is right. Perhaps he has a point, Durham have had to play a lot of youngsters after they were hit with financial problems, fines and points deductions following financial irregularities and a number of their best players departing. As a a result, they have had to throw a lot of youngsters into their first team to, basically, sink or swim and, all things considered, they are coping well.

    At Glamorgan, the policy to bring through the youngsters has been a deliberate one rather than one forced on them, but, in truth, it's fair to compare what's happened to them with how Durham are doing - Glamorgan are trailing the northern county by a distance. So, it seems there are two possible answers as to why - the first is that the north east just produces better cricketers than Wales and the second is that Glamorgan are much worse than Durham in turning talented youngsters into first performers - their development and coaching isn't good enough.

    I think there is an argument for saying Durham have a better core of young players to pick from than Glamorgan, but a look at our history says that there has usually been a fairly steady stream of Welsh players capable of playing first class cricket since we started playing county Championship cricket.

    The early figures of, for example, Donald, Carlson, Carey and Selman (who I know isn't Welsh) when they played for us indicated that they had the ability to do well in the county game, but look what happened to them when the first team coaches got their hands on them .

    I've been watching Glamorgan play for longer than any of the counties current coaching staff and I can tell them that this season's side is the worst I've seen when it comes to batting. The fact that Donald went from England Youth one day captain to not being good enough to get a place in this season's appalling batting side says so much - he doesn't seem to be blameless in this, but, by any standards, his game hasn't been "developed" by Glamorgan in the last two years. Carslon and Selman, despite being inconsistent, both showed promise before this season for me - with the former looking capable of developing into a good all round performer at county level and, possibly, higher, while the latter had already carried his bat twice and had won a game (Durham last season) for us virtually off his own bat. This time around though, Carlson has played the occasional good one day knock and got one big score in the four day game, while Selman is now dropped from the team with, I believe, a highest score of forty two for the season.

    How have these two players been developed by the club over the course of the 2018 season? In fact, how have any of the multitude of young players we've seen over the past few months been developed? Perhaps those in charge of coaching can tell us the name of one youngster who has played first class cricket this season who is a better player now than he was twelve months ago, because the figures say that there aren't any.
    You've got to ask what is going on at Glammy. Donald should be the cornerstone of the side, the fact that Hampshire have taken a punt on him shows he's clearly got talent but it isn't being fulfilled at county level. It is a bit more of growing trend that batsmen can't bat at FC level but Glammy's showings have been something else.

    Clearly the coaches need to be looked at but I don't think the scheduling of FC, then OD, then t20, then more FC, then t20 then FC again does anyone any favours, especially batsmen. I think Glammy could potentially be better off focusing their younger players on one form of the game.

  9. #1599

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    Heres the current coaching staff..is Matthew Maynard still there.
    Time for a change
    http://www.glamorgancricket.com/cric...-pictures.html

  10. #1600

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    Heres the current coaching staff..is Matthew Maynard still there.
    Time for a change
    http://www.glamorgancricket.com/cric...-pictures.html
    Front left.

  11. #1601

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnojek View Post
    Front left.

  12. #1602

    Re: GLAMMY

    6-3 second innings against Gloucestershire. They are beyond embarrassment.

  13. #1603

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    i wonder what the crowd is/was? there’s more to this than meets the eye, nobody can be this bad without trying to be.

    a very great shame and heads should roll from the top.

    classic incompetence!

  14. #1604

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    Hard to believe Glamorgan beat Gloucestershire in the first game of the season isn't it. Even more incredibly, they scored 526-9 in their first innings in that match - has a side ever scored more than half of their runs for a season in one innings before?

  15. #1605

  16. #1606

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish. View Post
    6-3 second innings against Gloucestershire. They are beyond embarrassment.
    Still over 200 behind Glos first innings too!

    The link to the piece on the delusional Croft is as embarrassing as the score.
    I love the spin (no pun intended) he puts on in his rationale for our plight, the mention of us being 7th best in the last 12 years, implying that we are not the worst

    Just checked and 118 for 7 now, still 99 behind.

    There is definitely more to it than Croft is letting on.
    Last edited by MacAdder; 12-09-18 at 14:07. Reason: addendum

  17. #1607

    Re: GLAMMY

    isn’t Croft a JB? Could explain a lot...........

  18. #1608

    Re: GLAMMY

    In this season's terms and with this batting side, making Gloucester bat again and taking the game into a fourth day has to be seen as almost a triumph.

  19. #1609

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    In this season's terms and with this batting side, making Gloucester bat again and taking the game into a fourth day has to be seen as almost a triumph.
    Only lost by 9 wickets!

  20. #1610

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Only lost by 9 wickets!
    Seeing as the last loss was by an innings, expect the hierarchy to make a statement of making progress

  21. #1611

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    Seeing as the last loss was by an innings, expect the hierarchy to make a statement of making progress
    They've got to be ruining the confidence of these young players. Carlson who was in fine form in the T20 got a pair in this game. The bizarre signing of Cook for the last few games hasn't worked out very well either!

  22. #1612

    Re: GLAMMY

    Apologies to continually repeat myself but the honorable thing to do would be to appeal the ECB for relegation to the minot counties league on the basis that we are completely out of our depth and have zero ambition.
    Allow a minor counties team to try their luck.
    Without doubt, they could not be worse

  23. #1613

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    New faces needed says Croft starting with one the replace his mug

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45512603

  24. #1614

    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    New faces needed says Croft starting with one the replace his mug

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45512603
    Finally an admission of failure. Alongside Shaun Marsh we need three new specialist batsmen next season. We need two new openers for starters. Then maybe we can bring in someone like Carlson lower down the order to take the pressure off.

  25. #1615

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    Another absolutely pathetic performance by Glamorgan against Kent - 250 behind on first innings, they're 33-4 and, weather permitting, will almost certainly lose before lunch tomorrow.

    I read somewhere that Hugh Morris and Robert Croft have a meeting with members on the 24th - I hope someone asks Croft to name one young player who he honestly believes his coaching has improved this season.

  26. #1616

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    This has been easily the worst season I can remember for Glamorgan. On all fronts we have been pathetic.

    Usually there is something to cling to - but not this season.


  27. #1617

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    I think I've found a bright side.

    Durham were bowled out for their lowest ever scored 61 in their first innings today.
    They improved in their second innings and we're all out for 66!

  28. #1618

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I think I've found a bright side.

    Durham were bowled out for their lowest ever scored 61 in their first innings today.
    They improved in their second innings and we're all out for 66!

    Now that is shocking. I can see Croft using this as a smoke screen.

  29. #1619

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I think I've found a bright side.

    Durham were bowled out for their lowest ever scored 61 in their first innings today.
    They improved in their second innings and we're all out for 66!
    Glamorgan were beaten by an innings by Durham last month - if they had to bat at Leicester in yesterday's conditions, I wouldn't have bet on them getting a hundred in the game, let alone in an innings.

  30. #1620

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    42-6 this morning. I bet they can't wait for the season ( if you can call it that to end).

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