Reply With QuoteIs it down to Hogan or Croft and Morris?
Give the spinners a go
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looks like the pitch has flattened out after day one, with our batsmen scoring runs this morning and now Gloucester are finding it easy.Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue
You would say that with this being an out ground and with there being 2 LVCC games and a T20 in the space of a week, they could have left some juice in the pitch to let it dry out over ther course of the week, which would be better than it being dry at the start and it crumbling and falling apart at the end.
Overall there had been poor decisions, with team selection and at the toss.
Is it down to Hogan or Croft and Morris?
Give the spinners a go
Its not that simplistic that its down to an individual. There has been a cycle of continuously getting rid of coaches, and replacing them with the next, and then not really seeing any improvement of results and performances.
There are issues that go down to the core of the club, its catchment area and its finances, and the ages of its playing squad. I dont believe there is a simply solution to it all.
Whoever decided they didn't want to bowl first on that wicket, be it Croft or Hogan, or both, need a long hard look at themselves.
A 10 wkt drubbing by Gloucestershire FFS
Message to Morris don't expect many fans turning up for the T20's after the last 2/3 games displays
Use the two days not used for batting practice
What a bunch of losers! 3 losses in a row.
A real shame as there's no reason to be optimistic about the T20's.
Had planned an Oval trip in August but think I'll knock that on the head.
Welsh sport a bit dire right now sadly.
Seriously question the whole management setup at the SWALEC. Is Theresa May behind it all?
Yep attendances will be affected and we will be going to less games.
We need to stop making excuses. What is happening goes beyond financial constraints. It's rank amateur.
I live ten minutes from Cheltenham College. The weather at 11am yesterday morning was dark and overcast. We know our batsmen are struggling and that the Cheltenham pitch is unreliable yet Hogan chooses not to ask Glos to bat. Rudolph made the same ridiculous decision earlier in the season. This is not hindsight. It's bloody obvious the ball was going to swing all over the place.
Then we have the farce over the batting order with poor Owen Morgan batting at three. Meanwhile one of our best batsmen came in at eight in the order today and for the second time in three innings was left stranded at one end when we were bowled out.
Then let's look at the number of extras we concede. We always concede more extras than the opposition with too many no balls and frankly too many free runs.
Once the T20 is over our youngsters need to be played. Morgan should stay in the side but bat lower down. Carlson in for Salter and Carey in for Wagg. Bragg needs to come back and as opener as it is pointless Rudolph playing any more first class cricket.
I hope Croft and Morris start talking with some honesty from now on because what is happening is beyond a joke.
^^^^^THIS^^^^
Especially the last sentance
im quite looking forward to friday first t20 and the cider festival starts in wetherspoons , mind you might back on the cider by 8 oclock
Ever since a good side under Matthew Maynard was broken up because they unluckily missed out on promotion after the two sides that went up, Worcester and Sussex, engineered an outcome from a game that was going nowhere on the final day of the season, it's been hard to see what the plan is at Glamorgan.
By and large, our specialist batting has simply not been good enough since then as signings of veteran overseas batsmen well past their best has, hardly surprisingly, not paid off.
As for the bowling, I couldn't help but agree with Steve Rhodes earlier this season when he said that we have what is, essentially, an overseas seam bowling attack. However, seam bowling is probably the team's strongest suit - I've already mentioned the lamentable batting, but, if anything, our spin bowling may be even worse than that.
There was a time when Glamorgan had a principled stand where they would not sign Kolpac players and the aim was to field as many Welsh players as possible - Hugh Morris came in saying that the onus would be on home grown players while he was in charge, but the truth is, rather like City, the current side may be the most unWelsh Glamorgan team ever.
The team that couldn't make their latest four day game last half of that time contained three Welsh born players and one Englishmen, the rest were born outside of the UK I believe.
We have become as bad as those teams who packed their sides full of foreigners that we used to criticise seven or eight years ago and where has it got us? I've seen worse Glamorgan sides than this one, but not many of them - this squad has the classic balance of too many veterans and too many youngsters trying to prove themselves that, almost always, equals failure on the pitch.
At the back end of last season, there was some encouragement as poor results at least had a consolation with a series of young players being introduced who showed that they could cope at senior level with a series of big scores and five fors that offered hope for the future.
Most of these players have struggled this year, but their causes surely cannot have been helped by the age old practice of dropping younger players from a struggling team even though there are plenty of more experienced men who were not doing the business.
Lukas Carey is an example of a younger player who has been doing pretty well this season and yet he's not played in either of the two latest embarrassments - the decision to leave him out at Gloucester was a truly baffling one, because I would have thought he would be unlikely to play much 20/20 cricket, so, basically, he's finished with first team cricket for the next six weeks!
I might give the cricket a complete swerve this season. Hants 43/0 off just 2.4 overs. Bloody awful
59/2 off 6 with Hogan taking the wickets and slowing the rate of scoring. Right off to the 2000 trees festival. Will doubtless return to find out Glammy lost.
Enjoy.......you never know
66 for 3 off 9. That is slamming the breaks on!
Looks like de Lange is injured,he didn't finish his over
BBC saying he's bowled 1.5 overs...hope it's a mistake...
2 overs...they've corrected itLooks like de Lange is injured,he didn't finish his over
BBC saying he's bowled 1.5 overs...hope it's a mistake...
79-4 8 overs left
167-5.... 20 overs.... can we do it?
Doubt it but you never know......
Great start Lloyd bowled first ball 0-1
44-3 .........6.4 overs
Guess who won
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO41120
Another shambolic failure by the top of the order.
Also, are we the only team who doesn't have an overseas T20 player - Shahid Afridi for Hampshire tonight, 4-20.
I feel sorry for Lloyd. He has been in hopeless form for a year now. He should be nowhere near the side. Hampshire were off to a flier whilst we lost two wickets in the first over. It's a sorry state of affairs. May not bother with the Somerset game next Saturday. No overseas player either. Any idea what the attendance was tonight? Doubt if it was more than 3000.
The attendance actually looked (and felt) decent tonight.
They closed the top half of the Fosters Stand, but that meant the rest of the main side of the ground was 3/4s full. Empty family stand & Pavilion.
A good few thousand.
Surprisingly, the attendance was actually 6300.
Thanks for that. Better than I thought then especially considering the teams poor form.
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