Owen Smith

[ZZ Jack]

What a slimeball, weasel of a bloke he is. I'm no fan of Labour, but why have they not got the likes of Alan Johnson standing, if they want credibility?

[goslow]

Hello Owen here

[Splott Dave]

The sooner Owen Smith crosses the floor and joins the Tories, the sooner his views will start to make sense.

[Mrs Steve R]

The sooner Owen Smith crosses the floor and joins the Tories, the sooner his views will start to make sense.

Are you still a lefty?

[Splott Dave]

Are you still a lefty?

I still have a social conscience if that's what you mean.

[Elwood Blues]

I still have a social conscience if that's what you mean.

Does that mean you think all "lefties" have a social conscience?

[Splott Dave]

Does that mean you think all "lefties" have a social conscience?

It's a valid question.

I think within the context of a democracy, the major advances for social improvement and societal improvements have traditionally come from the left of politics.

[Rjk]

The sooner Owen Smith crosses the floor and joins the Tories, the sooner his views will start to make sense.

Looking at Owen smiths policies I'm not sure that is a valid comment.
I'd prefer Corbyn to succeed, but I don't think Smith is from the right of the party - just an opportunist

[Splott Dave]

Looking at Owen smiths policies I'm not sure that is a valid comment.
I'd prefer Corbyn to succeed, but I don't think Smith is from the right of the party - just an opportunist

Check out how many of his policies have been directly copied from Jeremy Corbyn's policies, who previously had advanced them or presented them. Corbyn is a conviction politician, not an opportunist, he has principles and is prepared to stick with them without fear or favour, or any regard for his own personal advancement.

[Mrs Steve R]

I still have a social conscience if that's what you mean.

Would you say people like Owen Jones (not Smith) have a social conscience? we may as well get this out of the way before you leave us again

[Splott Dave]

Would you say people like Owen Jones (not Smith) have a social conscience? we may as well get this out of the way before you leave us again

Yes Mrs R I do know the difference between the two of them. One is a self-serving slimey little shit, full of his own self-importance while advancing non-problems on an unsuspecting public. The other one wants to be leader of the Labour party.

[Splott Dave]

Would you say people like Owen Jones (not Smith) have a social conscience? we may as well get this out of the way before you leave us again

Leave us again? I came on a free transfer from Twitter...

[Rjk]

Check out how many of his policies have been directly copied from Jeremy Corbyn's policies, who previously had advanced them or presented them. Corbyn is a conviction politician, not an opportunist, he has principles and is prepared to stick with them without fear or favour, or any regard for his own personal advancement.

That may be true, but none of it makes Owen Smith a Tory. Which he isnt.

[Rjk]

Yes Mrs R I do know the difference between the two of them. One is a self-serving slimey little shit, full of his own self-importance while advancing non-problems on an unsuspecting public. The other one wants to be leader of the Labour party.

I quite like Owen Jones, I don't always agree with his opinions, but he at least presents them in a relatively sensible(I.e. non-histerical) way.

[Mrs Steve R]

Yes Mrs R I do know the difference between the two of them. One is a self-serving slimey little shit, full of his own self-importance while advancing non-problems on an unsuspecting public. The other one wants to be leader of the Labour party.

I was just checking if we are on the same page.

[Splott Dave]

That may be true, but none of it makes Owen Smith a Tory. Which he isnt.

If he's a socialist, I'm an Olympic sprinter. I would have thought lobbying (that's what Cameron did) on behalf of big pharma to sell off major parts of the NHS, is not the best way to go about trying to establish socialist credentials.

[Mrs Steve R]

If he's a socialist, I'm an Olympic sprinter. I would have thought lobbying (that's what Cameron did) on behalf of big pharma to sell off major parts of the NHS, is not the best way to go about trying to establish socialist credentials.

Ahh, we are on the same page but sadly different books

[Splott Dave]

Ahh, we are on the same page but sadly different books

I'm not one to shirk a challenge. Let's forget about his sex appeal. What is it that attracts you to the cloned Blairite Owen Smith then?

[Mrs Steve R]

I'm not one to shirk a challenge. Let's forget about his sex appeal. What is it that attracts you to the cloned Blairite Owen Smith then?

Nothing attracts me to him I was talking about socialism when I said we are on different books.

[Splott Dave]

Nothing attracts me to him I was talking about socialism when I said we are on different books.

Turkey has surrounded an American airforce base with 7,000 heavily armed police (they don't trust their military) and are effectively holding America to ransom, as they were silly enough to leave 20 nuclear weapons at the base, just in case they wanted to make a loud bang somewhere, and you're preoccupied by books..... https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/s...60091347841024

[Rjk]

I'm not one to shirk a challenge. Let's forget about his sex appeal. What is it that attracts you to the cloned Blairite Owen Smith then?

Is he really a blairite?

[Splott Dave]

Are you still a lefty?

Owen Smith caught sending a late-night booty call without a photo...
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/08/01/o...labour-voters/

[Splott Dave]

Is he really a blairite?

Is he? He's borrowed David Cameron's white shirt, (the one with the rolled up sleeves and no tie) has got all the arm waving movements choreographed by someone who used to dance with Pan's People from TOTP, and is borrowing policies from left right and center, as he's far too busy to think of any himself,while pissing in people's pockets and telling them it's only rain...

[Mrs Steve R]

Labour are screwed with Corbyn there, and slightly less screwed with Smith there. They seem to reverting to the protest / placard waving party. Very popular with socialists everywhere - the problem being is that the UK has a constituency based model - so there are about 75 or key marginals Labour have to win - that will never happen. In fact seeing as all of Scotland is just about SNP - Labour would have to win the key marginals plus 50 more seats to compensate for the ones they've lost in Scotland - No chance.

I'm not a fan of Corbyn, I don't trust him.

Turkey has surrounded an American airforce base with 7,000 heavily armed police (they don't trust their military) and are effectively holding America to ransom, as they were silly enough to leave 20 nuclear weapons at the base, just in case they wanted to make a loud bang somewhere, and you're preoccupied by books..... https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/s...60091347841024

Fair enough if you don't want to talk about it now but it will come up again, you do remind me of someone when you change the subject like that

[Splott Dave]

I'm not a fan of Corbyn, I don't trust him.


Fair enough if you don't want to talk about it now but it will come up again, you do remind me of someone when you change the subject like that

I'm here, you're here, let's get the deal done. Corbyn is attracting slightly larger crowds, than a German gentlemen whose name we shall not mention, did at Nuremburg. Yet people are sucked in by corporate media spin and negative bias against him. For someone who has faced a mountain of msm spin and B/S telling the public just how unelectable he really is, he's looking like shoe-in as far as electability goes.