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    Cornelius

    Banging them in for Copenhagen again. A couple so far in Champs League qualifying tonight

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    Could work well in trollope's new system?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearPig View Post
    Could work well in trollope's new system?!
    Toyota.

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    Whether he was ever good or not we paid him a lot of money to never give him a chance to show us one way or another. It was truly crass how we treated him as an employee and I think it should be seen as one of the worst moments of those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Whether he was ever good or not we paid him a lot of money to never give him a chance to show us one way or another. It was truly crass how we treated him as an employee and I think it should be seen as one of the worst moments of those times.
    I agree with this. That press release was one of Tan's lows. Maybe not his lowest but it was petty and spiteful, and I daresay it put some players off wanting to join us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I agree with this. That press release was one of Tan's lows. Maybe not his lowest but it was petty and spiteful, and I daresay it put some players off wanting to join us.
    Bellamy called him the worst professional he's ever seen, and not in terms of footballing ability. There was something extremely fishy about that transfer and Cornelius was atrocious. He never hit the target once in shooting drills before the game, he couldn't trap a bag of cement or run. His diving "header" was hilarious.

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    He's a better player than we saw. Looking at the clips he likes it played into feet or to run oni through balls. In the few chances he had here we just lumped it upto him from 70 yards away and expected him to hold it up. That isn't his game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    He's a better player than we saw. Looking at the clips he likes it played into feet or to run oni through balls. In the few chances he had here we just lumped it upto him from 70 yards away and expected him to hold it up. That isn't his game
    He couldn't run, shoot or head the ball properly. He had enough of a chance to show he wasn't up to it by a good few years yet and so we wasted a huge chunk of money in nearly destroying a lad who clearly wasn't anywhere near good enough. I hope he's improved over the past 3 years - he couldn't have got any worse.

    I'll blame the regime for a number of failures at that time, but getting rid of Cornelius on £45k a week was not one of them

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    Well I guess someone may have made a fast buck out of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Well I guess someone may have made a fast buck out of us.

    Not mentioning any names of course. ( )

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    I've just come back from a long weekend in Copenhagen. It was strange to see his face on buses & advertising posters for different things. Took me a while to realise who it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R View Post
    Not mentioning any names of course. ( )
    But just to be clear, we're talking about Zenith, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Well I guess someone may have made a fast buck out of us.
    Cornelius must have departed with a very healthy bank balance to console him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Cornelius must have departed with a very healthy bank balance to console him.
    Others maybe,as well

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q_Igv0NAYo

    No one came out of the Cornelius saga well.

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    It's funny how history has been rewritten with regard to the Cornelius transfer.

    As I recall, the reaction from the majority of Cardiff fans when the guy was signed was that the transfer was something of a coup from the canny Mackay, who had allegedly beaten several other Premier League clubs to the lad's signature, while the player himself was widely hailed as one of the rising stars of European football and someone with great potential.

    I can also remember supporters getting excited by the fact that Cornelius had been hailed as star in the making by none other than that wise old owl Ole Gunnar Solsksjaer, who was quoted as saying that Manchester United should be considering him as a transfer option. Ironic, huh?

    Now, it seems, everyone thought there was something dodgy about the transfer all along, while the apparently ambitious manager wasn't bothered about his first season in the top flight or his rising reputation and was merely interested in lining his own pockets at Tan's expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It's funny how history has been rewritten with regard to the Cornelius transfer.

    As I recall, the reaction from the majority of Cardiff fans when the guy was signed was that the transfer was something of a coup from the canny Mackay, who had allegedly beaten several other Premier League clubs to the lad's signature, while the player himself was widely hailed as one of the rising stars of European football and someone with great potential.

    I can also remember supporters getting excited by the fact that Cornelius had been hailed as star in the making by none other than that wise old owl Ole Gunnar Solsksjaer, who was quoted as saying that Manchester United should be considering him as a transfer option. Ironic, huh?

    Now, it seems, everyone thought there was something dodgy about the transfer all along, while the apparently ambitious manager wasn't bothered about his first season in the top flight or his rising reputation and was merely interested in lining his own pockets at Tan's expense.
    Welcome back TLG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Welcome back TLG.
    Thank you, Jeepster. Only a flying visit, though. I find this site impossible to access on my phone and rarely bother visiting it when I'm on my PC, so you won't see me posting often this season. It promises to be an interesting one, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It's funny how history has been rewritten with regard to the Cornelius transfer.

    As I recall, the reaction from the majority of Cardiff fans when the guy was signed was that the transfer was something of a coup from the canny Mackay, who had allegedly beaten several other Premier League clubs to the lad's signature, while the player himself was widely hailed as one of the rising stars of European football and someone with great potential.

    I can also remember supporters getting excited by the fact that Cornelius had been hailed as star in the making by none other than that wise old owl Ole Gunnar Solsksjaer, who was quoted as saying that Manchester United should be considering him as a transfer option. Ironic, huh?

    Now, it seems, everyone thought there was something dodgy about the transfer all along, while the apparently ambitious manager wasn't bothered about his first season in the top flight or his rising reputation and was merely interested in lining his own pockets at Tan's expense.
    Then why didn't the ambitious manager play this rising star of European football who he had beaten several Premiership clubs to sign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFC CASUAL View Post
    Then why didn't the ambitious manager play this rising star of European football who he had beaten several Premiership clubs to sign?
    I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was because the player didn't turn out to be anywhere near as good as either the ambitious manager or his legions of supporters believed he'd be.

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    "Then why didn't the ambitious manager play this rising star of European football who he had beaten several Premiership clubs to sign?"

    Quite possibly something to do with the injury he picked up at the very start of the season which kept him out for months.

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    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It's funny how history has been rewritten with regard to the Cornelius transfer.
    edit.
    What did you think about Cornelius, at the time he was signed?
    And then 6 months after - what did you think about the situation then?
    And again now, with the benefit of apparently fuller hindsight ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    What did you think about Cornelius, at the time he was signed?
    And then 6 months after - what did you think about the situation then?
    And again now, with the benefit of apparently fuller hindsight ?
    Like most people, I thought he looked very promising when he was signed. An obvious gamble at the fee, but very promising all the same. After 6 months, I thought Mackay had bought a player who was nowhere near ready for the Premier League at best and nowhere near good enough at worst. Now I think he looks like he could probably do a job in the Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It's funny how history has been rewritten with regard to the Cornelius transfer.

    As I recall, the reaction from the majority of Cardiff fans when the guy was signed was that the transfer was something of a coup from the canny Mackay, who had allegedly beaten several other Premier League clubs to the lad's signature, while the player himself was widely hailed as one of the rising stars of European football and someone with great potential.

    I can also remember supporters getting excited by the fact that Cornelius had been hailed as star in the making by none other than that wise old owl Ole Gunnar Solsksjaer, who was quoted as saying that Manchester United should be considering him as a transfer option. Ironic, huh?

    Now, it seems, everyone thought there was something dodgy about the transfer all along, while the apparently ambitious manager wasn't bothered about his first season in the top flight or his rising reputation and was merely interested in lining his own pockets at Tan's expense.
    I don't agree with any of that.

    Nearly everyone at the time including myself thought that it was VERY odd to be spending so much money on someone that most people had never ever heard of.

    We all hoped for great things from him but he turned out to be rubbish, sadly.

    I have no idea where your version of events comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Like most people, I thought he looked very promising when he was signed. An obvious gamble at the fee, but very promising all the same. After 6 months, I thought Mackay had bought a player who was nowhere near ready for the Premier League at best and nowhere near good enough at worst. Now I think he looks like he could probably do a job in the Championship.
    So history hasn't really rewritten itself just people now have the benefit of hindsight.

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