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    Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.

    C'mon, Damo, get back to your old adversarial self. You're miles better than than these one-liners. I rarely agreed with anything you stated, but however specious, status quo and brainwashed I believed them to be they appeared to be sincerely held. It's bad form sending TruBlue out to bat while you put your feet up in the pavilion. The poor lad's skittled out in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    C'mon, Damo, get back to your old adversarial self. You're miles better than than these one-liners. I rarely agreed with anything you stated, but however specious, status quo and brainwashed I believed them to be they appeared to be sincerely held. It's bad form sending TruBlue out to bat while you put your feet up in the pavilion. The poor lad's skittled out in no time.
    You've waited days and days to reply and come up with that. Like having constipation for a week and then finally having a rabbit dropping poo.

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    Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.

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    Yes its relevant and no I don't remember what you said in 2012. So what happened to the hijacked plane full of passengers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes its relevant and no I don't remember what you said in 2012. So what happened to the hijacked plane full of passengers?
    What proof do you have that a plane was hi-jacked? You have none whatsoever. Nobody does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    What proof do you have that a plane was hi-jacked? You have none whatsoever. Nobody does.
    Ok as you're being pedantic, I'll change the question for you. What happened to the plane that took off full of passengers that is said to have hit the Pentagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ok as you're being pedantic, I'll change the question for you. What happened to the plane that took off full of passengers that is said to have hit the Pentagon?

    by Christopher C. Kelly
    Public Affairs, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology

    What some experts have called "the most comprehensive forensic investigation in U.S. history" ended Nov. 16 with the identification of 184 of the 189 who died in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

    A multidisciplinary team of more than 50 forensic specialists, scientists and support personnel from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology played a major role in Operation Nobel Eagle investigations, officials said. AFIP is an executive agency of the Army surgeon general.

    You'll never get a straight answer out of splotter,he doesn't know how to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ok as you're being pedantic, I'll change the question for you. What happened to the plane that took off full of passengers that is said to have hit the Pentagon?
    It's not about being 'pedantic' there is no proof whatsoever that any plane was hi-jacked. There is only a working assumption that they were hi-jacked. In other words the official line relies on a theory that planes were hi-jacked. Everything connected with those flights including the fictitious 'phone call' from one of the flights is pure speculation. It is unbelievable that so many people swallow the official line when people involved in the 9/11 Commission have already denounced it.

    If fully qualified airline pilots say that a particular approach and descent is beyond the capabilities of most experienced pilots, then why should we be dismissive of their views that inexperienced people would find it impossible to carry out the same manoeuvre?

    If we look at everything from a logical, evidenced based perspective, then it quickly becomes obvious that what the public have been told with regard to the whole events surrounding 9/11 simply do not add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    It's not about being 'pedantic' there is no proof whatsoever that any plane was hi-jacked. There is only a working assumption that they were hi-jacked. In other words the official line relies on a theory that planes were hi-jacked. Everything connected with those flights including the fictitious 'phone call' from one of the flights is pure speculation. It is unbelievable that so many people swallow the official line when people involved in the 9/11 Commission have already denounced it.

    If fully qualified airline pilots say that a particular approach and descent is beyond the capabilities of most experienced pilots, then why should we be dismissive of their views that inexperienced people would find it impossible to carry out the same manoeuvre?

    If we look at everything from a logical, evidenced based perspective, then it quickly becomes obvious that what the public have been told with regard to the whole events surrounding 9/11 simply do not add up.
    You haven't answered his question though.

    Regardless of if it was hijacked or not, what happened to the plane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ok as you're being pedantic, I'll change the question for you. What happened to the plane that took off full of passengers that is said to have hit the Pentagon?
    "Although the adjustments required to maintain the shallow angle of descent may have challenged a human pilot, they would seem an easy task for a 757's autopilot, with its ability to read instruments and adjust control surfaces accordingly with great speed and accuracy."
    http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/

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    Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.

    ^^ flight 93 must have lost its wifi connection.

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    I despise some of the conspiracies on Dave Splott's twitter account.

    The holocaust denial is pretty despicable. As I imagine all events prior to mass media could be quesitoned for lack of detailed information.

    That is how the turkish try to get away with the armenian genocide.

    This though, this stinks to high heaven.

    I don't know if Bush and Blair etc actively planned it. But I'd strongly suggest they were not totally disappointed that they had an opportunity to carrying out the iraq war after it.

    The fact the Bin Laden construction firm is still the biggest in arabia tells you everything.

    Such a rich family being involved in such a plot is rather odd.

    And the fact the bin laden group is based in saudi arabia, when we were always told bin laden hated the saudi royal family for allowing american forces on to sacred ground.

    And this laughable verdict:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-terror-attack

    It is very, very strange.
    Last edited by LordKenwyne; 23-08-16 at 14:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by شهرستان کاردیف View Post
    I despise some of the concpiracies on Dave Splott's twitter account.

    The holocaust denial is pretty despicable. As I imagine all events prior to mass media could be quesitoned for lack of detailed information.

    That is how the turkish try to get away with the armenian genocide.

    This though, this stinks to high heaven.

    I don't know if Bush and Blair etc actively planned it. But I'd strongly suggest they were not totally disappointed that they had an opportunity to carrying out the iraq war after it.

    The fact the Bin Laden construction firm is still the biggest in arabia tells you everything.

    You're a fool, and a slanderer.

    The whole of WW2 is open to investigation and examination from a historical perspective.

    Aspects of history are open to to be re-examined all the time. That's what historians are trained to do. Examine what it is that we thought we knew and revaluate it in the light of fresh or new information.

    Revisionist historians use facts and science to underpin their questioning approach, not fairy tales, stories, myths and quasi-religious mumbo jumbo.

    "As I imagine all events prior to mass media could be questioned for lack of detailed information"

    Mass media is dying on its arse. You only have to see the amount of information that comes out in seconds on social media which disputes what mass media outlets have put out on a particular item.

    The latest being the 'dusty boy' photograph a few days ago, which went around the world with various newsreaders, CNN et al crying on screen, as if to add to the spin that followed the photos.

    The reality was revealed on social media with photos and videos of the picture being staged, not just staged but staged by the same photographer who had a selfie with the head choppers who decapitated a 12 year old Palestinian boy, after dragging him from his hospital bed.

    Mass media serves the corporate interests that own it firstly, rather than have any imperative to release news and inform its readership/viewers of facts in an unbiased way.

    People who use ad hominem attacks and blanket unsubstantiated melo-dramatic perjoratives like "despise some of the conspiracies" are usually unable to articulate, or ever justify them as being "conspiracies." Rather they just turn out out to be uncomfortable facts which politically just don't sit well with that particular individual.

    You need to research the Armenian genocide properly as it would take too long to go into on here, and the Bin Laden company built Mecca and every major road network in Saudi Arabia. They're a billionaire family, one that is very close to the Saudi Royal family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    You're a fool, and a slanderer.

    The whole of WW2 is open to investigation and examination from a historical perspective.

    Aspects of history are open to to be re-examined all the time. That's what historians are trained to do. Examine what it is that we thought we knew and revaluate it in the light of fresh or new information.

    Revisionist historians use facts and science to underpin their questioning approach, not fairy tales, stories, myths and quasi-religious mumbo jumbo.

    "As I imagine all events prior to mass media could be questioned for lack of detailed information"

    Mass media is dying on its arse. You only have to see the amount of information that comes out in seconds on social media which disputes what mass media outlets have put out on a particular item.

    The latest being the 'dusty boy' photograph a few days ago, which went around the world with various newsreaders, CNN et al crying on screen, as if to add to the spin that followed the photos.

    The reality was revealed on social media with photos and videos of the picture being staged, not just staged but staged by the same photographer who had a selfie with the head choppers who decapitated a 12 year old Palestinian boy, after dragging him from his hospital bed.

    Mass media serves the corporate interests that own it firstly, rather than have any imperative to release news and inform its readership/viewers of facts in an unbiased way.

    People who use ad hominem attacks and blanket unsubstantiated melo-dramatic perjoratives like "despise some of the conspiracies" are usually unable to articulate, or ever justify them as being "conspiracies." Rather they just turn out out to be uncomfortable facts which politically just don't sit well with that particular individual.

    You need to research the Armenian genocide properly as it would take too long to go into on here, and the Bin Laden company built Mecca and every major road network in Saudi Arabia. They're a billionaire family, one that is very close to the Saudi Royal family.
    Whatever.

    Slander, in what regard?.

    You are clearly right and everyone else wrong. Why even bother debating when you throw a hissy fit.

    You clearly have a set of views and do everything possible to find ways to fit it. Including labeling the media corrupt.

    You worked in Iran, love assad I presume and hate the Jews. Whoopdy doooo. Open your eyes everyone, what the ayatollah tells the world is correct.

    And I said the bin laden group was close to the saudis, that was my point.

    You say I am unable to articulate it the majority of your opinions are based of what exactly.

    Your hatred of Jews/Israel fuels your need to find an angle to deny the holocaust.

    Everything is open to historical perceptive. Including the formation of israel. And the UK was perfectly within their rights to create it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by شهرستان کاردیف View Post
    Whatever.

    Slander, in what regard?.

    You are clearly right and everyone else wrong. Why even bother debating when you throw a hissy fit.

    You clearly have a set of views and do everything possible to find ways to fit it. Including labeling the media corrupt.

    You worked in Iran, love assad I presume and hate the Jews. Whoopdy doooo. Open your eyes everyone, what the ayatollah tells the world is correct.

    And I said the bin laden group was close to the saudis, that was my point.

    You say I am unable to articulate it the majority of your opinions are based of what exactly.

    Your hatred of Jews/Israel fuels your need to find an angle to deny the holocaust.

    Everything is open to historical perceptive. Including the formation of israel. And the UK was perfectly within their rights to create it.
    You brought up 'despise conspiracies'. You have no idea what my views are, as I've not articulated them to you.

    Your own admission is 20 tweets out of what, 65,000+?

    Why do you 'presume that I would hate Jews'? I have many friends who are Jews as well as famous Jewish followers on Twitter, such as Gilad Atzmon, Mira Barr-Hillel, Shlomo Sand, Jason Schuman, and Prof Norman Finkelstein.

    Do you think that they would choose to follow or associate with someone who hated Jews?

    I've already told you, Organ exposed your lack of knowledge, and I have neither the time or the inclination to go into the rest of your rambling smearing post and dissect it.

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    If it's never been an issue, then you should take it up with Organ Morgan and the video he posted on this very page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    If it's never been an issue, then you should take it up with Organ Morgan and the video he posted on this very page.
    It's a retired military general opining. There's nothing to take up.

    Seven of the FBI named hi-jackers are still alive and well.

    As I stated earlier there is a comprehensive overview of all the issues connected with this, including police tapes of someone phoning to say Palestinians were heading to a certain bridge in New York carried out by Chris Bollyn.

    So far, we know now what we didn't know some years ago, that senior members of the 9/11 Commission have distanced themselves from their very own report.

    No one can possibly stick to the official line as laid out in the 9/11 Commission's report. So what's left?

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    How to win an argument, claim someone is totally stupid based on a few comments.

    Organ proved nothing.

    You have proven nothing in my time on this forum.

    All you've done is try to play the victim and act as if you have more credibility based on very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by شهرستان کاردیف View Post
    How to win an argument, claim someone is totally stupid based on a few comments.

    Organ proved nothing.

    You have proven nothing in my time on this forum.

    All you've done is try to play the victim and act as if you have more credibility based on very little.
    I'm going to put you on ignore now. Go and play with someone else.

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    Ah diddums. Wee wickle baby gown cry.

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    Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.

    Why on earth would anyone want to save that?

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    I found this interview very interesting, but I am not sure what to conclude from it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d12PwgMskI

    I can tell you what I was doing on all the momentous occasions - Kennedy assassination, 9/11, 7/7 - but this guy can't even remember that on 9/11 he was telling the nation about it. You have to be a very "low information" type not to know about Tower 7 and he had never heard of it. This man's job is all about news and current events. If people like him are so clueless what hope is there for the mugs who swallow fake propaganda like the boy in the ambulance story that's been getting headlines everywhere.

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    That is a WeAreChange video, and it looks like a sting rather than an interview as he appears to be unaware of a camera trained on him that's positioned at a poor angle. Hayton is either a teleprompter reading drone with a terrible memory, or a liar.

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    Re: The best 9/11 video that you are ever likely to see.

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