Labour shadow ministers resigned because they thought Corbyn would win general election

[Elwood Blues]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ecause-8722027


I make no comment.

Other than to say I'll have some of what Paul Mason's having!!!!!!!

[goslow]

If Carlsburg did delusions.....

[Barry Dragon]

If Carlsburg did delusions.....

[Wales-Bales]

They were Blairites a.k.a Fabians, hence establishment financed by corporations, so it's quite obvious that they would be quite keen to get rid of Corbyn

[Splott David]

They were Blairites a.k.a Fabians, hence establishment financed by corporations, so it's quite obvious that they would be quite keen to get rid of Corbyn

The battle going on within Labour at present is all about getting rid of the influence of Blairism once and for all.

[surge]

The battle going on within Labour at present is all about getting rid of the influence of Blairism once and for all.

Blairism is also part of the broad tent that labour covers politically. For me Corbyn was the one saying they needed to reach out 10 months ago while others have been distancing themselves from the left of their party, and until Labour realises that it needs strong labour values and a bit of Blairism then it has much lower chances of success.

[Wales-Bales]

Blairism is also part of the broad tent that labour covers politically. For me Corbyn was the one saying they needed to reach out 10 months ago while others have been distancing themselves from the left of their party, and until Labour realises that it needs strong labour values and a bit of Blairism then it has much lower chances of success.

Blairism is Fabianism, which has been patiently moving their agenda forward for over a century, and Corbyn is definitely not a part of that plan. Smith and his backers would gladly lose the next election if it meant getting rid of Corbyn.

[goslow]

Blairism is Fabianism, which has been patiently moving their agenda forward for over a century, and Corbyn is definitely not a part of that plan. Smith and his backers would gladly lose the next election if it meant getting rid of Corbyn.

What smith and his backers want or think doesn't matter in the slightest,with corbyn 'leading' the labour party it's unelectable

[Wales-Bales]

What smith and his backers want or think doesn't matter in the slightest,with corbyn 'leading' the labour party it's unelectable

Well somebody is putting a huge amount of effort into trying to get rid of him

[Mrs Steve R]

Blairism is Fabianism, which has been patiently moving their agenda forward for over a century, and Corbyn is definitely not a part of that plan. Smith and his backers would gladly lose the next election if it meant getting rid of Corbyn.

Never say definitely in this game.

[surge]

What smith and his backers want or think doesn't matter in the slightest,with corbyn 'leading' the labour party it's unelectable

Why? If people were purely judging on policies then that seems to be a whole different debate (not many criticising him seem to do so on his policies) but if down on personality then Corbyn's politics are needed so much more than Cameron making a snide comment about Ed Milliband having no friends in school while his chums howl in the background.

The problem labour have is that the Tories seem much better at disagreeing with each other in private for the greater good of being seen as united. I can't see labour being elected while having two separate parties within itself however if this challenge passes, Corbyn survives and everyone agrees that many strong voices is better than destroying all but your favoured one then labour have a real chance as they are so desperately needed.

[Wales-Bales]

Why? If people were purely judging on policies then that seems to be a whole different debate (not many criticising him seem to do so on his policies) but if down on personality then Corbyn's politics are needed so much more than Cameron making a snide comment about Ed Milliband having no friends in school while his chums howl in the background.

The problem labour have is that the Tories seem much better at disagreeing with each other in private for the greater good of being seen as united. I can't see labour being elected while having two separate parties within itself however if this challenge passes, Corbyn survives and everyone agrees that many strong voices is better than destroying all but your favoured one then labour have a real chance as they are so desperately needed.

If Corbyn survives the challenge, there will be forces in play within the Labour Party and outside of it, ensuring that he doesn't win the General Election.

[goslow]

Why? If people were purely judging on policies then that seems to be a whole different debate (not many criticising him seem to do so on his policies) but if down on personality then Corbyn's politics are needed so much more than Cameron making a snide comment about Ed Milliband having no friends in school while his chums howl in the background.

The problem labour have is that the Tories seem much better at disagreeing with each other in private for the greater good of being seen as united. I can't see labour being elected while having two separate parties within itself however if this challenge passes, Corbyn survives and everyone agrees that many strong voices is better than destroying all but your favoured one then labour have a real chance as they are so desperately needed.

What policies? All I've heard from him is unaffordable,pie in the sky soundbites.

[CardiffIrish2]

If Corbyn survives the challenge, there will be forces in play within the Labour Party and outside of it, ensuring that he doesn't win the General Election.

I think 'forces in play' will be the electorate who vote in the Tories in a 1983 type way.

[Wales-Bales]

I think 'forces in play' will be the electorate who vote in the Tories in a 1983 type way.

You are ignoring the role of the media in all of this.

[Elwood Blues]

Some good points made in this thread.

Does any one agree with Paul Mason's view that Corbyn could win a snap election?

[goslow]

Some good points made in this thread.

Does any one agree with Paul Mason's view that Corbyn could win a snap election?

Nope,he's talking out of his arse.