Reply With QuoteWhat - if you don't mind me asking - was the catalyst to you becoming interested in the Israel/Palestine question at such a young age?Originally Posted by Splott David
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could you answer the question re the thread title, a simple explanation would suffice, cheers
What - if you don't mind me asking - was the catalyst to you becoming interested in the Israel/Palestine question at such a young age?
The 1967 Six Day War. People in military logistics explained to me how the way that the narrative had been presented with regard to the Israeli tanks was impossible. The same tanks fought in Sinai and then raced through Israel to fight in the Golan all without logistical preparation. Later other's confirmed that the amount of logistics involved would have taken months to prepare and then they would have to be precisely where you needed them when you needed them. The only way that could be achieved is if the war was pre-planned and the Israelis knew what they would need and where it had to be.
Later accounts which came out confirmed that it had been a war of aggression and that no one in the Israeli military ever thought that there was a serious threat from either Egypt or Syria.
How many links expressing similar views to the one in this article do you want me to provide for you?
http://forward.com/news/320934/why-j...-british-jews/
If you really thought about it, it's not so much Corbyn that is being persecuted, but sections of the British electorate who voted for him as leader and continued supporting him against the parliamentary Labour MP's, the establishment and the pro-Israeli lobby.
Jesus Christ ! You're sailing a bit close to the wind. I've just had a look at your twitter site and I can't believe they haven't stuck you in a crate and shipped you off to some Israeli prison. Haven't you ever heard of anonymity? There's bravery and there's recklessness.
I go on messageboards to find out what people are thinking and also to bend someone's ear if they are silly enough to listen me, but you have taken this to another level. You really want to influence things and you don't seem to be bothered about the cost to yourself. I admire that but I wonder if it is it worth it. You are certainly going to annoy some dangerous people, but can you change the minds of the neutrals and the ignorant. Has anyone ever said you have changed their opinion?
I think the best we can do is to post links to sites which expose establishment lies using logic and evidence. In my opinion it is a waste of time arguing face to face - or the twitter equivalent - with fanatics or cyber bullies. It just ends up with name calling.
answer the ****ing question you cockwomble
Go and F*** yourself.
refusing to answer a simple question, tacit admission imho
There is no question to answer, the thread title and links speak for themselves. You could do the research into it yourself, instead of acting the fool on here. It's a message board, not the Spanish Inquisition.
If you have a countervailing view then post it.
How many experts in military logistics did you know at 16????
Surely he was "researching" it by asking you a questions. After all you were the author of the title.
You kept refusing to answer him so what outcome was he meant to come too.
The thread and the link to it were self explanatory. People can research it for themselves, after all they don't want or need me supplying yet more links which show the same thing.
Israel must have planned the 1967 war cos they wanted that most valuable of resource, the desolate golan heights.
If you knew the history you would not have to ask that question.
Of course it was planned.
You really want to stop making a plonker of yourself with these posts on the subject.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/11/wo...pagewanted=all
Your knowledge of history is a figure of your imagination.
As is absolutely everything in the past.
So your little brain does not deal with certainties I am afraid, Splod.
However much you claim comments from a handful of people somehow means your opinions is correct.
It is very funny. The fact you think the occasional opinion solidifies your statements as fact. When you probably went out of your way to find ways to turn 1967 against israel. You searched for it, didn't you?
No sunshine. I read and studied the history over a forty year period. Now please stop making a plonker of yourself.Your knowledge of history is a figure of your imagination.
As is absolutely everything in the past.
So your little brain does not deal with certainties I am afraid, Splod.
However much you claim comments from a handful of people somehow means your opinions is correct.
It is very funny. The fact you think the occasional opinion solidifies your statements as fact. When you probably went out of your way to find ways to turn 1967 against israel. You searched for it, didn't you?
Have a day off from being so patronising.
It is boring.
Why don't you go into writing, or enter lectures on youtube if your words are so wondrous and valuable to the world. Dr Dai Splott.
Strange every single thread leads to this point. You saying you are more intelligent than all others due to first hand experience. Why even bother commenting if you don't think our comments are worth debating?.
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For balance the non-Jewish persecution of Jeremy Corbyn can be discussed as well if you like.
Either way he's having a tough time from unwarranted attacks.
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/...E#.V-UsTpgrLIU
You posted some drivel partly made up of Israeli propaganda, with the rest being a little rant all of your own. That's fine but when you make or assert specific claims as if they were true, then you need to supply supporting links for it.
You didn't, because none exist.
What are the specific claims I made on this thread.
And as always you live off creating strawmen.
I made no "assertions" so stop acting like I did.
On the other thread I claimed israel is not as bad as you make out. No "assertions" about concrete facts, an opinion.
The problem is, when you only read the side of the story you like, you get a distorted view of things. You are proof of that.
Another one making unsubstantiated claims. The problem only exists in your own mind TruBlue, no where else.
There are no sides, there is the irrefutable historical timeline of what took place, who was involved and why things happened.
None of which have you ever even tried to refute. So now you make up nonsense posts about 'distorted view of things' on subjects that you steer well clear of. Are you some sort of non-playing vice captain on this board these days?
Plenty have refuted your claims but you just answer with that there opinion is incorrect and then send ANOTHER link to a totally one sided website.
Former NEC member and one of the backroom conspirators against Jeremy Corbyn, now claims that Owen Smith was just a sacrificial lamb to prepare the Labour party for the future post-Corbyn era. That is to say the day when the Blairites regain control of Labour.
https://twitter.com/evolvepolitics/s...53033483866112
This is Luke, with MP Ruth Smeeth, when he's not trying to f*** up the Labour party from within supporting Israel.
https://twitter.com/Smeggypants/stat...28038190739456
Here is his main interest.
http://www.webelieveinisrael.org.uk/...luke-akehurst/
Then a few years back he was positively having an orgasm over Smeeth becoming an MP.
http://lukeakehurstsblog.blogspot.co...ected.html?m=1
More recently (he was on BBC the other night) he claims that all of the Labour members who in his opinion, are not representative of the electorate, should be barred from Labour.
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