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    Apology to Brexiters

    I'm sure no one gives a crap, but I wanted to apologise to Brexiters (for my sake) as I got caught up with the hysteria in the referendum campaign and added to the voice from the remain camp about bigotry etc.

    I was always on the fence on the matter but during the campaign I swung toward remain. This is due to a few things like - protecting my own self interest (I live in Berlin thanks to the free movement opportunity), worry about the economy, caught up in political correctness, media manipulation and thinking that the best way to fight for democracy was to to bypass what we have in Westminster. Oh and also a lack of education on the matter.

    On this point about democracy and power to the people, the most important factor for me, I now realise how naive my thinking was. I regret the position I took. Anyway, I'm back on the fence now and leaning towards a Brexit position. Even if it might have a rubbish impact on my own life.

    People are talking about a second referendum. I feel if there was another one (they won't give us that power again), I think the Brexit margin of victory could be even bigger.

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    I give a crap, I got quite involved in those arguments myself and got a bit wound up at some of the suggestions so I appreciate your apology, there is no shame in changing your view or realising you were wrong about something, better that than stick with a view out of stubborness, we are all human.

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    Great OP. Cheers BitF

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    When you say they will soon be joining the EU, you mean...?

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    We haven't yet seen the full impact of Brexit yet.

    Luckily for you, any trade deal we are able to negotiate is likely to involve the free movement of people, so it should be a case of "business as usual" regarding immigration.

    Of course, our economy may end being such that asylum seekers no longer want to come here anymore.

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    So they 'might one day' join the EU, not 'will soon'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in the Face View Post
    I'm sure no one gives a crap, but I wanted to apologise to Brexiters (for my sake) as I got caught up with the hysteria in the referendum campaign and added to the voice from the remain camp about bigotry etc.

    I was always on the fence on the matter but during the campaign I swung toward remain. This is due to a few things like - protecting my own self interest (I live in Berlin thanks to the free movement opportunity), worry about the economy, caught up in political correctness, media manipulation and thinking that the best way to fight for democracy was to to bypass what we have in Westminster. Oh and also a lack of education on the matter.

    On this point about democracy and power to the people, the most important factor for me, I now realise how naive my thinking was. I regret the position I took. Anyway, I'm back on the fence now and leaning towards a Brexit position. Even if it might have a rubbish impact on my own life.

    People are talking about a second referendum. I feel if there was another one (they won't give us that power again), I think the Brexit margin of victory could be even bigger.
    What's with the 'free movement' nonsense?

    I lived and worked in Berlin in 1971 before Britain was in Europe. Not being politically linked to Europe didn't stop me from working in Germany and as I recall it didn't stop the Beatles and a host of other entertainers from working there either.

    I voted Brexit, couldn't get to the polls quick enough, along with all my family and quite a few other people that I know. We were denied the opportunity of a vote about political union with other countries in mainland Europe and I've had to wait since 1975 to have my say in whether we should, or should not, be politically linked to Europe. I don't want political union I especially don't want a European Army or be told that I'm a European. I was a European before the Common Market, later the EU and nothing has changed and nothing will change when we are out of the political union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in the Face View Post
    I'm sure no one gives a crap, but I wanted to apologise to Brexiters (for my sake) as I got caught up with the hysteria in the referendum campaign and added to the voice from the remain camp about bigotry etc.

    I was always on the fence on the matter but during the campaign I swung toward remain. This is due to a few things like - protecting my own self interest (I live in Berlin thanks to the free movement opportunity), worry about the economy, caught up in political correctness, media manipulation and thinking that the best way to fight for democracy was to to bypass what we have in Westminster. Oh and also a lack of education on the matter.

    On this point about democracy and power to the people, the most important factor for me, I now realise how naive my thinking was. I regret the position I took. Anyway, I'm back on the fence now and leaning towards a Brexit position. Even if it might have a rubbish impact on my own life.

    People are talking about a second referendum. I feel if there was another one (they won't give us that power again), I think the Brexit margin of victory could be even bigger.
    The CIA created the EU so that it would be easier for them to control our foreign policy. Even the Daily Telegraph admits that :

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...iteers-discov/

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