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Thread: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

  1. #26

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    David Vincent trying to get you to answer a question



    Lardy trying to get you to answer a question



    Lardy clearly pointing out your don't answer questions, he's obviously noticed it as well as me.



    Packerman trying to get you to answer a question asked numerous times



    Packerman clearly still not getting any luck



    LordKenwyne not getting any answers out of you



    Goslow not able to get an answer out of you



    LordKenwyne struggling once again to get an answer out of you



    Barry Dragon obviously see's asking you is a waste of time.



    Cardiffi giving up as you flip flop through a thread



    I expect I could go on but as I said the other week I think you have mental issues and I feel kind of bad doing it.

    I'm sure you'll tell me all those posters are wrong, but there is one common denominator here.
    Five of those are on ignore for their persistent sniping and trolling threads, Cardiffi intervened in a thread he wasn't even involved in and I profoundly disagreed with David Vincent's premise, as it bore no relation to what we know about the political history concerning Zionism. There's very little point in engaging on an issue when in the same thread the person admits that he didn't even know who Jabotinsky was. It's a bit like someone involved in discussing the politics WW2 explaining they didn't know who Hitler was in connection with the thread and topic.

  2. #27

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    Five of those are on ignore for their persistent sniping and trolling threads, Cardiffi intervened in a thread he wasn't even involved in and I profoundly disagreed with David Vincent's premise, as it bore no relation to what we know about the political history concerning Zionism. There's very little point in engaging on an issue when in the same thread the person admits that he didn't even know who Jabotinsky was. It's a bit like someone involved in discussing the politics WW2 explaining they didn't know who Hitler was in connection with the thread and topic.
    You've put the users on ignore as they were asking things you didn't want to answer, that's the point I'm making. No wonder you are a fan of these far flung "democracies" if you just banish your dissenters.

    As for Cardiffi intervening in a thread he wasn't involved in, what a load of nonsense. No one owns the threads on here, anyone can get involved that's the point of a messageboard, otherwise there would be just the opening poster in every thread.

  3. #28

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    [QUOTE=TruBlue;4681385]You've put the users on ignore as they were asking things you didn't want to answer, that's the point I'm making. No wonder you are a fan of these far flung "democracies" if you just banish your dissenters.

    As for Cardiffi intervening in a thread he wasn't involved in, what a load of nonsense. No one owns the threads on here, anyone can get involved that's the point of a messageboard, otherwise there would be just the opening poster in every thread.[/QUO
    Thought of a few on here when reading this 😃

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...20161006114906

  4. #29

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Thought of a few on here when reading this ��

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...20161006114906


    Probably more factual than half the links they link to as well.

  5. #30

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    Five of those are on ignore for their persistent sniping and trolling threads, Cardiffi intervened in a thread he wasn't even involved in and I profoundly disagreed with David Vincent's premise, as it bore no relation to what we know about the political history concerning Zionism. There's very little point in engaging on an issue when in the same thread the person admits that he didn't even know who Jabotinsky was. It's a bit like someone involved in discussing the politics WW2 explaining they didn't know who Hitler was in connection with the thread and topic.
    And yet you've quoted and replied to three of the seven today...

  6. #31

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    And yet you've quoted and replied to three of the seven today...
    I'm renowned for my magnanimity...

  7. #32

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    And yet you've quoted and replied to three of the seven today...
    I'm renowned for my magnanimity...

  8. #33

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    Five of those are on ignore for their persistent sniping and trolling threads, Cardiffi intervened in a thread he wasn't even involved in and I profoundly disagreed with David Vincent's premise, as it bore no relation to what we know about the political history concerning Zionism. There's very little point in engaging on an issue when in the same thread the person admits that he didn't even know who Jabotinsky was. It's a bit like someone involved in discussing the politics WW2 explaining they didn't know who Hitler was in connection with the thread and topic.
    You've just eliminated everyone on this site from the thread. I would guess that 99.9999% of the world's population have never heard of Jabotinsky. I like debating with religious extremists and that is the kind of thing they say. "How can you say that rubbing your balls with walnut oil doesn't increase knob size when you have never read the parable of the man with the very large knob in our holy book."

  9. #34

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    Five of those are on ignore for their persistent sniping and trolling threads, Cardiffi intervened in a thread he wasn't even involved in and I profoundly disagreed with David Vincent's premise, as it bore no relation to what we know about the political history concerning Zionism. There's very little point in engaging on an issue when in the same thread the person admits that he didn't even know who Jabotinsky was. It's a bit like someone involved in discussing the politics WW2 explaining they didn't know who Hitler was in connection with the thread and topic.
    And yet you keep on engaging with us.........:Sherlock:

  10. #35

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    I'm not doubting that a lot of the mainstream media have an agenda but the problem with looking for a different viewpoint is that EVERYONE has a natural bias and therefore an agenda.

    A quick look around that website and its clear what their angle is. Therefore it's hardly likely to be impartial is it?

    Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it relevant. Fact is you can look on the Internet and find pretty much anything to back up a particular point of view.
    Couldn't agree more Doc. This flies in the face of everything that we have been fed by mainstream media over the last four years.

    https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...t-nobel-prize/

  11. #36

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    You've just eliminated everyone on this site from the thread. I would guess that 99.9999% of the world's population have never heard of Jabotinsky. I like debating with religious extremists and that is the kind of thing they say. "How can you say that rubbing your balls with walnut oil doesn't increase knob size when you have never read the parable of the man with the very large knob in our holy book."
    Therein lies the difference as I don't respond to questions about religion, don't debate people on religion and have no particular interest in ever doing so.
    If you're going to debate on politics and political history, you need at the very least to have some knowledge, no matter how basic it is, on the subject.

  12. #37

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    I'm renowned for my magnanimity...
    And now me, that's four

    Why do you tell these lies?

  13. #38

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    And yet you keep on engaging with us.........:Sherlock:
    I just float some ideas on the water mate. I'm not responsible for who's upstream pissing in it.

  14. #39

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    I'm renowned for my magnanimity...
    Is magnanimity a posh word for lying?

  15. #40

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by richard. View Post
    Why did you have to link to some crackpot site? This is a genuine story being covered by legitimate sources:

    http://www.salon.com/2016/10/03/u-s-...ganda-program/
    http://labs.thebureauinvestigates.co...d-false-flags/
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/so...iraq-h5m5sscr9
    Crackpot site?

    It's a news site founded by journalist Patrick Henningsen. "Patrick Henningsen is a writer, investigative journalist, and filmmaker and founder of the news website 21stCentury Wire.com."

  16. #41

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    Is magnanimity a posh word for lying?
    You've had three weeks to contact Michael Lees, when three weeks ago your arse was on fire with demands as to how he could be reached. He's on Twitter, Facebook and his blog at Uprooted Palestinians.

    What have you done about it son?

  17. #42

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    You've had three weeks to contact Michael Lees, when three weeks ago your arse was on fire with demands as to how he could be reached. He's on Twitter, Facebook and his blog at Uprooted Palestinians.

    What have you done about it son?
    Honestly mate, do you have brain issues?

    You've been caught out lying on a number of times on here and you answer it by replying about me asking who owned a website a month ago.

    It's not normal behaviour. It's like you read different words to the rest of us.

    I think I'm going to start answering posts in the same manner as you do.

    So in answer to your questions have I contacted Michael Lees, the answer is Kevin Moran in 85 was the first.

  18. #43

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    Honestly mate, do you have brain issues?

    You've been caught out lying on a number of times on here and you answer it by replying about me asking who owned a website a month ago.

    It's not normal behaviour. It's like you read different words to the rest of us.

    I think I'm going to start answering posts in the same manner as you do.

    So in answer to your questions have I contacted Michael Lees, the answer is Kevin Moran in 85 was the first.

    I'll refresh your feeble memory for you.


    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    Who runs thats uprooted website? Where can I find out more detail about them and it. I'm trying to do my "critical analysis".
    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    Who is he? Trying to find some stuff on him, also where does it say he's the owner, also who verifies all these independent journalists articles?
    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue View Post
    Let's deal with the original questions first, we can move onto other places afterwards.

    1. Who is Michael Lee?
    2. Where is the confirmation that he owns that website?

  19. #44

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    Therein lies the difference as I don't respond to questions about religion, don't debate people on religion and have no particular interest in ever doing so.
    If you're going to debate on politics and political history, you need at the very least to have some knowledge, no matter how basic it is, on the subject.
    I have some knowledge about the topic. I just hadn't heard of Jabotinsky. Nobody on this site had heard of him until you mentioned him. Hardly anyone in the world knows about him. What you are really saying is that because you have this little bit of arcane knowledge on one particular aspect of a situation we should all accept your view as the final word.

    Most of these disputes boil down to arguments about general principles and not just facts about who did or said what.

    Suppose someone urgently needs some haemorrhoid cream and he asks his flatmate where the haemorrhoid cream is. This flatmate spends all his time sitting on his butt posting on the internet about politics so he obviously needs his own supply of haemorrhoid cream and because of that he refuses to say where he has hidden it.

    Now let us suppose they ask some neighbours to arbitrate in their dispute about who should have the haemorrhoid cream. One neighbour is a busybody who knows the names of both parties in the dispute and he has intervened in their arguments for many years. He is the person who knows the most facts about the dispute. The second neighbour is a doctor who specialises in haemorrhoids but he doesn't know the neighbours. The third neighbour is a Professor of Law at Cambridge University who has also never met the neighbours.

    I think most people would say the views of the second two neighbours are just as important as the views of the person who knows the most facts about the history of the dispute. The doctor could examine their haemorrhoids and decide which one needed the cream most. The professor of law could decide which one is legally entitled to the cream.

    Why don't you like mentioning your views on religion? Is it because these views might expose you as having an ulterior motive for taking one side in this dispute?

  20. #45

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    I have some knowledge about the topic. I just hadn't heard of Jabotinsky. Nobody on this site had heard of him until you mentioned him. Hardly anyone in the world knows about him. What you are really saying is that because you have this little bit of arcane knowledge on one particular aspect of a situation we should all accept your view as the final word.

    Most of these disputes boil down to arguments about general principles and not just facts about who did or said what.

    Suppose someone urgently needs some haemorrhoid cream and he asks his flatmate where the haemorrhoid cream is. This flatmate spends all his time sitting on his butt posting on the internet about politics so he obviously needs his own supply of haemorrhoid cream and because of that he refuses to say where he has hidden it.

    Now let us suppose they ask some neighbours to arbitrate in their dispute about who should have the haemorrhoid cream. One neighbour is a busybody who knows the names of both parties in the dispute and he has intervened in their arguments for many years. He is the person who knows the most facts about the dispute. The second neighbour is a doctor who specialises in haemorrhoids but he doesn't know the neighbours. The third neighbour is a Professor of Law at Cambridge University who has also never met the neighbours.

    I think most people would say the views of the second two neighbours are just as important as the views of the person who knows the most facts about the history of the dispute. The doctor could examine their haemorrhoids and decide which one needed the cream most. The professor of law could decide which one is legally entitled to the cream.

    Why don't you like mentioning your views on religion? Is it because these views might expose you as having an ulterior motive for taking one side in this dispute?
    3...2...1 and we're back to whataboutery again.

    I would have thought in any discussion on Revisionist Zionism the founder of it, Ze'ev Jabotinsky was pretty germane to the subject under discussion.

    After all as Bibi Netanyahu's father was Ze'ev Jabotinsky's right-hand man it is entirely understandable why the thread of Jabotinsky's doctrine continues now in modern day Israel and why Netanyahu embraces it so passionately.

    The morality under discussion is only moral from a Zionist perspective, as clearly all other perspectives simply do not count. That's Revisionist Zionism, based on fascist ideology which continues to this day in the ruling Likud party.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ar...cle.aspx/19580

  21. #46

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Splott David View Post
    I'll refresh your feeble memory for you.
    I'm not denying asking the question, you answered it and I believed you (maybe stupidly with your history). There was no more needed to be said.

    It's just a weird thread to post it in.

    All that's happened here is that I couldn't be arsed private messaging your Jew hating mate, then I called you a liar, added to that I proved you never answered questions the other day so you've shoehorned this in, in a desperate bid to make me look silly.

    You should've waited, you'd have had your chance to get this point in, but at least in a thread where it made sense.

    On the converse though dad, I'm impressed at you being able to multi quote my posts.

  22. #47

    Re: Pentagon Paid $540mn to PR firm Bell Pottinger to Produce Fake Terrorist Videos

    "On the converse though dad, I'm impressed at you being able to multi quote my posts."

    Piece of cake. But getting the Tipex off the screen after I've corrected spelling mistakes is proving to be more difficult.


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