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The girl says she remembers basically nothing other than the hotel lobby and a pizza.
If Ched raped her then, it's inconceivable the other lad didn't. If she consented to him and cant remember then surely the same defence extends to Ched?
Ched Evans defence get to question her tomorrow and her simple defence will be "I can't recall". I'm guessing it's tomorrow when this new evidence will be revealed.
Strange case this. How can one man rape a woman who doesn't give consent but not the other?
I suppose the fact she met the other in the bar first might help. I haven't been keeping up but I think she remembers meeting him and consented going back to the hotel with him.Originally Posted by the leader
Interesting to see what the new evidence is tomorrow. Would chesterfield sack him if he's found guilty?
Posted this on a similar thread yesterday, worth a follow and read.
https://twitter.com/rupertevelyn
Pretty sordid and graphic content. Must be incredibly difficult for his partner to be present during proceedings.
Wasn't there claims of his mates videoing the events, in which case this might be the new evidence that has been provided to back up these statements? That and the archival of the Facebook posts she made the following day regarding a big cash payout and treating her mates to a holiday etc.
I don't think he's guilty as it was proposed initially, but there are certainly lessons to be learned for all concerned, and those with young sons and daughters.
She didn't even know his name until the police said itdodgy as
If she can't remember anything, then surely if Ched says she said yes there in nothing to dispute?
She was fine to take directions and understand what the taxi driver said and the pizza shop guy, so she must have known what she was doing and was ok with it, even if yshe can't remember .
Regarding the new evidence, would the defence have to reveal it to the crowns lawyers before the trial?
Yes, the CPS knew the info aswell
Freeeeeeeeee CHEDWYN EVANS
If the girl couldn't remember anything about that evening because she was so drunk how could the other guy who first had sex with the girl in the hotel room have been found not guilty. If he was not guilty the same should also have applied to Evans.
I'm no legal expert but that does seem to be incredibly unjust.
A jury unanimously convicted him, and rejected his appeal. She consented to McDonald by going back with him, she didn't consent to McDonald texting Ched to say, I've got a girl.
So you're saying if a girl agrees to go back to your room, she's consenting to sex? That's not true is it.
in the original case, it was decided she met Clayton and decided to go back to the hotel room with HIM
the whole sorry case has been wrong right from the start, yes Ched is a dirty snake who acted very wrong, but that doesnt make him a rapist
Yes but if she agreed to go to the hotel room she must have been aware and not as totally lacking in memory as she claimed. If she remembered going to the hotel room she must have been sufficiently alert to know what was happening. Had the other guy been found guilty then fair enough but the fact the two have been dealt with differently is unjust.
She agreed to have sex with the first guy. She didn't agree to have sex with Ched. He didn't get to the hotel until afterwards when she may (or may not) have already passed out.
I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but how long has "Ched" been an acceptable name for a human being?
It sounds like a noun for shit. "I just stepped in a massive ched and now I've got ched all over my fvcking shoes".
Sorry I didn't realise you were on the jury
Had they both been found guilty I don't think anyone would be questioning the verdict.
The thing I find a bit odd is that her drunkenness is someone elses responsibility.
What happens if they both wake up in the morning and say they can't remember a thing? Could they both be classed as guilty of a sex crime?
Or if a woman remembered and the bloke didn't, could she get done and him prosecute?
The other point is that she had cocaine and cannabis in her system which she admitted to taking prior to the night in question.
Are you a lawyer or a judge?
Are you? You've been very vocal on this case over the years, even claiming to have read the court documents once whilst getting lots of details wrong.
I'm not hence getting a lot of it wrong. He just seemed quite confident and clued up with what he was saying so I was just wondering if he was.
I'm still shocked so many people back him after what's been said over the last few days but I suppose I can see why people could say it wasn't rape even if ched comes across very poorly.
Its fundamental. these are our laws, designed to protect us all. If the police have lied, and encouraged this woman to lie then but for the grace of god there goes us all. His character is immaterial.
Gary Glitter was never tried or convicted yet he is labelled a sick filthy paedophile. He was never tried so is legally innocent yet his contacts, networks and no doubt knowledge of wider ills protected him.
The Police went after Evans because they saw easy prey, 1-0 to the NWP against an immature and ultimately not-so-bright individual who elected to give a statement he was under no legal obligation to give.
I can imagine it now "listen Ched, its easier if you help us clear this up, theres a bit of confusion, we just need your side of the story". Innocently, he chunters away not knowing that every word will incriminate him because the woman has been told to 'remember nothing'.
If he is not a rapist, he did not deserve to lose his liberty and livelihood. This is extremely important.
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