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Labour voters victimising themselves is one of the most tiring aspects of uk politics at the moment.
And stop quoting that freak smeggypants ffs
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
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Labour voters victimising themselves is one of the most tiring aspects of uk politics at the moment.
And stop quoting that freak smeggypants ffs
"Why if jews died in six figures, why do they only have markings of up to 5 figures on their arms."
"Probably because that is by individual concentration camp".
Silence
On to find more anti jewish propaganda to fill the void left by is desolate life.
The anti-semitism ‘crisis’ in the Labour Party has been entirely manufactured. It has been used as a stick to bludgeon Corbyn with by the political right who are terrified of him and his profit-threatening, social justice policies; by the Israel lobby because Jezza is pro-Palestine; and by members of his own party for careerist reasons. It’s not a plot or a conspiracy, though – it’s just politics. People and groups fighting (quite dirtily, in this case) for their own interests. That said, I have been disturbed by the supposedly neutral BBC’s coverage of Corbyn which has been scandalously biased against him.
Last edited by Gabalphaville; 06-10-16 at 10:32.
"Terrified".
More like they lit the match and labour did the rest.
Labour are at fault for making far more of this than was needed. Ken Livingstone did a fabulous job of creating an issue out of nothing.
Labour are in the absolute gutter and it is worthy of mass coverage.
"Careerist reasons".
The population vote for MP's. They do not vote for a leader.
Corbyn thinks all MP's should follow his mantra, not the constiuents of the MP's.
If MP's want to enforce policies that were in their individual leaflets etc during the election then they need to be in power.
The UK is more right wing than it has ever been. They've got next to no chance. Which is a shame as I like corbyn and I voted labour in 2015.
Last edited by LordKenwyne; 06-10-16 at 10:36.
Oh the right are definitely terrified of Corbyn gaining power. Why else would they throw so much shit at him? If he was such a no-hoper they would sit back and let him get on with it. You're correct about Livingstone - he has done more harm than good by droning on about Hitler every five seconds. I don't believe for a second, though, that he is anti-semitic.
I don't see Labour as being "in the gutter". They've just had a massive upsurge in grass roots support. Or do you mean morally? I don't see them as being morally in the gutter either as Jezza is Mr Social Justice and about as painfully right-on as you could get.
"Careerist reasons" refers to the recent Labour leadership race. The biggest purveyor of the 'anti-Semitism in the Labour Party' myth was Owen Smith.
MPs, of course, have a duty to their constituents but first and foremost they are elected representatives of a particular Party. I think MPs like Jess Phillips, Stephen Kinnock etc should take note of the massive shift in the Labour Party since the last GE and act accordingly. I'd happily see them deselected if they don't. Obviously it's difficult for Jezza to demand loyalty as he's never been loyal in his career and that remains one of his biggest weaknesses as leader.
The UK is going to get more right-wing under May. I'm all for more State intervention given the market free for all we've endured over recent years but with May at the helm you just know it'll end up meaning more restrictions on civil liberties and that kind of stuff.
Pro palestine/pro corbyn trolls on twitter regularly are anti Semitic. Dressed up as criticism of the israeli government. Any anti jewish comment is now defended.
Who is throwing shit at him?. The media? They are there to flog papers and gain subscriptions. People want to read about drama.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...mas-and-hezbo/
38% of voters voted for Smith. That is not an extreme minority.
Nothing May has said suggests she will be a right wing PM.
If she leans to the left Labour will be even more decimated. And that is what she is doing.
They have little chance without Scotland.
The Tories/UKIP are gaining in Wales.
They are rewriting the constituency boundaries, favouring the Tories as Labour has benefited from tiny boundaries in the past.
Since when did 300k votes in the leadership election mean you were a powerhouse candidate that the media is shitting themselves over.
Put him power. Then his Venezuelan like policies would soon destroy the county.
Put the matter to bed. Please do it.
Last edited by LordKenwyne; 06-10-16 at 11:46.
OK I will.
Not seen any right wing people criticising him. They are happy leaving labour voters throw shit at him. As you say they are sitting back and letting them get on with it.
Do you walk past your local newsagents with your eyes closed? http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7144381.html
As usual Splott David you are ignoring the general problem. The question is whether your first loyalty is to your party or to your tribe - i.e. your extended family. In the case of the person in the second link it is clear that she has chosen the second option. Why is that wrong? In fiction a common way to depict a dystopian society is to have a child report a parent to the party for breaking a rule. Putting the party before the family is seen as a very bad thing by nearly everyone so what has this MP done that is wrong?
Don't forget that most people on your side of the argument are there for tribal reasons. They are there because members of their tribe or cult – a cult is like a family – are being oppressed by members of another tribe. If the roles were reversed would there be so much world wide support for the oppressed tribe?
Not more whataboutery? Try some focus instead.
You have two speeds, whataboutery and straw man.
Get back to me when you are serious about discussing issues on here.
Ah the old classic Splott Dai.
Don't like the argument so resort to accusations of being unable to debate properly.
The irony being that the worst form of being unable to debate properly is a complete lack of acceptance of a different viewpoint.
Now who does that remind me of.......
You'll be put on ignore for that. That's made you cry, hasn't it?
Doc, it's more a sign of early undiagnosed dementia than an argument. Arguments address the points that are presented or raised, not deflect from them and meander off on a tangent which has nothing to do with the subject in hand.
How do you know it is undiagnosed?
I think my question went directly to the question in hand. There is no doubt that the coup against Corbyn is being organised by the Israel first crowd. They have put the tribe before the party. The question I am asking you again is why is it wrong for someone to support their tribe rather than their party. Identity politics seems to be ignored when it comes to blacks, Muslims and other groups, but it is wrong for Jews. Are you against all identity politics or just against the pro Israel crowd?
" no smoke without fire "
So are they manufactured or are there only a few Twitter trolls. Which is it. Can't be both.
It's either true or not. And gapalfa has co firmed it's true, whilst denying it's true. Jaded debate from some on here.
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