The rise of alternative media

[Wales-Bales]

"Trump victory spells the end of traditional media influence"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...edia-influence

[lardy]

Can't speak for America, but I would confidently say that the mainstream media here had a massively bigger influence over people than alternative media for Brexit.

[Wales-Bales]

Can't speak for America, but I would confidently say that the mainstream media here had a massively bigger influence over people than alternative media for Brexit.

That's a fair assessment, probably because the alternative media is more established in the US, but I would also say social media had some impact on Brexit, as a counterbalance to the popular media.

[Mrs Steve R]

If this is true it's interesting..

[LordKenwyne]

He's not wrong:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...g-down/424011/

It is odd she would call them "Al Jazeera America" because that doesn't even exist now.

A lack of knowledge that makes you sceptical.

[Mrs Steve R]

He's not wrong:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...g-down/424011/

It is odd she would call them "Al Jazeera America" because that doesn't even exist now.

A lack of knowledge that makes you sceptical.

Perhaps that's what he meant then? I'm just on a break from laptop repairs so I haven't thought it through obviously.

[Wales-Bales]

Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.

[Packerman]

Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.

i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then if so how did they allow him to be elected it sort of fecks up the neocon world order

[Mrs Steve R]

Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.

I've never been a fan of Al Jazeera tbh, always thought there was something dodgy about them, I think Trump is dodgy too, have you seen pics of him at the annual Jesuit dinner party with Hilary?

i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then if so how did they allow him to be elected it sort of fecks up the neocon world order

^^ see above

[Organ Morgan.]

i,m confused now, is trump not a beef burger then if so how did they allow him to be elected it sort of fecks up the neocon world order

The real power lies with elite bankers (which is a euphemism for the people that Splott Dai was forever criticising, and was banned for) and the worldwide network of central banks they control. One of the very few they don't is Syria's. Some others that they didn't were Libya and Iraq. You may or may not have noticed a theme here.

Some simpler stuff: you, or anyone, borrows £100,000 for a mortgage from, say, Barclays with a repayment period of 25 years at a 3.00% fixed interest rate over the entire term. Providing you make all repayments the property is yours. You would have paid them around £45,000 more than you borrowed. Let's also pretend that throughout the period your job paid you exactly £10,000 per year net. That would men, effectively, you have slogged exclusively for their financial benefit for four-and-a-half years. But that's fine because they enabled you to put a roof over your head and were kind enough to lend you the the dough, right?

Wrong! You borrowed money that didn't exist, and you were conned into becoming a debt slave to legalised thieves who operate a fractional reserve banking system. You won't believe what I've written. You would if you cared to research the subject which would be easy as you have the internet at your fingertips. But I know from having similar discussions down the years that Mrs Steve R's signature beneath her every post holds true for those who choose to remain wilfully ignorant.

[Packerman]

The real power lies with elite bankers (which is a euphemism for the people that Splott Dai was forever criticising, and was banned for) and the worldwide network of central banks they control. One of the very few they don't is Syria's. Some others that they didn't were Libya and Iraq. You may or may not have noticed a theme here.

Some simpler stuff: you, or anyone, borrows £100,000 for a mortgage from, say, Barclays with a repayment period of 25 years at a 3.00% fixed interest rate over the entire term. Providing you make all repayments the property is yours. You would have paid them around £45,000 more than you borrowed. Let's also pretend that throughout the period your job paid you exactly £10,000 per year net. That would men, effectively, you have slogged exclusively for their financial benefit for four-and-a-half years. But that's fine because they enabled you to put a roof over your head and were kind enough to lend you the the dough, right?

Wrong! You borrowed money that didn't exist, and you were conned into becoming a debt slave to legalised thieves who operate a fractional reserve banking system. You won't believe what I've written. You would if you cared to research the subject which would be easy as you have the internet at your fingertips. But I know from having similar discussions down the years that Mrs Steve R's signature beneath her every post holds true for those who choose to remain wilfully ignorant.

So it was the jews what done it

[Mrs Steve R]

So it was the jews what done it

The creature from Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin

[LordKenwyne]

Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.

Al Jazeera pump out 50 anti israel articles per day. That is their sole purpose.

Who are some credible news sources?.

That have boots on the ground to know the score.

[TruBlue]

Al Jazeera pump out 50 anti israel articles per day. That is their sole purpose.

Who are some credible news sources?.

That have boots on the ground to know the score.

Al Jazeera made the mistake of printing some obvious true versions of events a few times which goes against what some bloke in his bedroom wrote on uprooted so now it's persona non grata of the loons media world.

[Organ Morgan.]

Al Jazeera are part of the club, they are not alternative media at all. They might have been pretending to provide a different viewpoint, but it was all spin and propaganda. They are funded by Qatar, who also sponsor the Clinton Foundation and ISIS. It's not at all surprising that Trump told them where to go.

Watched that channel a few times some years ago and soon realised the whole supposedly commercial operation was funded by the only advert between programmes, one for Qatar Airlines.

[Mrs Steve R]

Why does everything have to end up in an argument?

[Organ Morgan.]

Why does everything have to end up in an argument?

I think it's time to give this forum a swerve for a while.

[Mrs Steve R]

I think it's time to give this forum a swerve for a while.

Don't do that, I would miss you, even if packerman wouldn't

[lardy]

I think it's time to give this forum a swerve for a while.

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[Wales-Bales]

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Didn't you know they were the same person?

[Wales-Bales]

Those pesky Russians

http://russia-insider.com/en/politic...arious/ri17541

[the other bob wilson]

Forget about the personalities involved, but I find this article pretty depressing. i agree with the things said about specialist journalists having their reputations shredded, but, apparently, elections are won these days by the candidate who is "more entertaining" and generates "more passion" - a Facebook candidate for the Facebook generation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37952249

[life on mars]

"Trump victory spells the end of traditional media influence"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...edia-influence

Can he spell ?

[Wales-Bales]

Anyway, I've already stated above that it was on social media where the real Brexit battle took place, the mainstream media were merely pandering to their masters.

[Packerman]

Anyway, I've already stated above that it was on social media where the real Brexit battle took place, the mainstream media were merely pandering to their masters.

no it didn't, the majority of people who voted brexit were the older generation who don't tend to live on twitter or Facebook