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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I have never posted a link from that site, this thread is not about main stream news, it's about the epidemic of fake news sites that has flooded facebook and other social media for the last few months, it's a deliberate flood of completely fabricated stories so they can push for more censorship of the internet.
    I thought it was a group of kids in Macedonia who discovered a new way to make a few dollars? Was Brexit and Trump also a part of this deliberate attempt? What has materialised is Merkel and Obama have made themselves unelectable, so in hindsight if it was actually them who were behind all the fake news, it wasn't the best of ideas

    This is a good read, if only for the comments. It will sum up nicely what is really going on

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ocial-networks

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I thought it was a group of kids in Macedonia who discovered a new way to make a few dollars? Was Brexit and Trump also a part of this deliberate attempt? What has materialised is Merkel and Obama have made themselves unelectable, so in hindsight if it was actually them who were behind all the fake news, it wasn't the best of ideas

    This is a good read, if only for the comments. It will sum up nicely what is really going on

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ocial-networks
    Yeah it was a group of kids in Macedonia and from the Russians apparently, I'm not saying that it was or it wasn't, I'm just repeating what they are telling people and saying how I see it, they are suggesting that brexit and Trump are the result of all the fake news, I read something earlier about Obama consulting with lawyers, it made me think about what Organ said, can't find where I saw it, will get back to you.

    "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

    We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs

    Could better Internet security have prevented Trump’s shocking win? <--
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-shocking-win/

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Yeah it was a group of kids in Macedonia and from the Russians apparently, I'm not saying that it was or it wasn't, I'm just repeating what they are telling people and saying how I see it, they are suggesting that brexit and Trump are the result of all the fake news, I read something earlier about Obama consulting with lawyers, it made me think about what Organ said, can't find where I saw it, will get back to you.

    "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

    We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs

    Could better Internet security have prevented Trump’s shocking win? <--
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-shocking-win/
    Read the comments in the Guardian article above to get an idea about what people are really thinking. This fake news stuff is just more propaganda from the same people who have just been anhialated. This kind of response is all that they know.
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 26-11-16 at 19:11.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

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    We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs
    How do you know this isn't fake news? He was very quick to change his tune and start singing like a canary

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Read the comments in the Guardian article above to get an idea about what people are really thinking. This fake news stuff is just more propaganda from the same people who have just been anhialated. This kind of response is all that they know.
    I never let comments, likes, upvotes or any other crap on things influence my view you should know that by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How do you know this isn't fake news? He was very quick to change his tune and start singing like a canary
    Exactly, what a great song he sings too

    btw, you may not agree with me on this one but remember I'm not TruBlue.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I never let comments, likes, upvotes or any other crap on things influence my view you should know that by now.
    You don't have to let their comments influence you, it's just a snapshot of various public opinion that is sandwiched in the middle of the MSM propaganda and alternatinve media propaganda. I believe when taken as a whole, you will get a richer set of data to work with when forming your own opinions If people listened to others and tried to understand what they are saying, the world would be a less complicated place. Don't be a part of the problem, be part of the solution

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't have to let their comments influence you, it's just a snapshot of various public opinion that is sandwiched in the middle of the MSM propaganda and alternatinve media propaganda. I believe when taken as a whole, you will get a richer set of data to work with when forming your own opinions If people listened to others and tried to understand what they are saying, the world would be a less complicated place. Don't be a part of the problem, be part of the solution
    Are you taking the piss? I take all views in to consideration but I make my own mind up, how do you know they are genuine comments by the way? you know the internet, full of trolls.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

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    Are you taking the piss? I take all views in to consideration but I make my own mind up, how do you know they are genuine comments by the way? you know the internet, full of trolls.
    There are 1183 pages of comments, that's why I said it's a snapshot of various public opinion

    If you haven't read Sapiens yet, you should give it a go. It explains how humans believe in shared ideas, and not in reality. That's why it is so easy to control and maniputale people. They have been doing it for 10,000 years. I can lend you my copy if you want

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    It's the wrong kind of democracy I thought I was listening to a bunch of Remoaners for a minute, they are all singing from the same hymn sheet

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    There are 1183 pages of comments, that's why I said it's a snapshot of various public opinion

    If you haven't read Sapiens yet, you should give it a go. It explains how humans believe in shared ideas, and not in reality. That's why it is so easy to control and maniputale people. They have been doing it for 10,000 years. I can lend you my copy if you want
    How many times have you told me to read that now? I think you are trying to control and manipulate me

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    The Summer of the Shill

    Campaign 2016 won't just have lasting implications for American politics. It's obliterated what was left of our news media

    Years ago, when I was an exchange student in the Soviet Union, a Russian friend explained how he got his news.

    "For news about Russia, Radio Liberty," he said. "For news about America, Soviet newspapers." He smiled. "Countries lie about themselves, tell truth about others."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-shill-w434484

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    How many times have you told me to read that now? I think you are trying to control and manipulate me
    It not going to control or manipulate you, it's a history book written by a professor of history, based on introductory undergraduate history course about the history of civilisation

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The Summer of the Shill

    Campaign 2016 won't just have lasting implications for American politics. It's obliterated what was left of our news media

    Years ago, when I was an exchange student in the Soviet Union, a Russian friend explained how he got his news.

    "For news about Russia, Radio Liberty," he said. "For news about America, Soviet newspapers." He smiled. "Countries lie about themselves, tell truth about others."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-shill-w434484
    You could have done with some quotation marks there

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It not going to control or manipulate you, it's a history book written by a professor of history, based on introductory undergraduate history course about the history of civilisation
    Can you not tell when I'm joking?

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    Can you not tell when I'm joking?
    That's why I mentioned the word history 4 times

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The Summer of the Shill

    Campaign 2016 won't just have lasting implications for American politics. It's obliterated what was left of our news media

    Years ago, when I was an exchange student in the Soviet Union, a Russian friend explained how he got his news.

    "For news about Russia, Radio Liberty," he said. "For news about America, Soviet newspapers." He smiled. "Countries lie about themselves, tell truth about others."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-shill-w434484
    Jay's off again

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

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    Jay's off again
    i prefer Walter

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

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    i prefer Walter
    Oh no, it's Dumb and Dumber

  19. #44

    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Yeah it was a group of kids in Macedonia and from the Russians apparently, I'm not saying that it was or it wasn't, I'm just repeating what they are telling people
    I saw them on TV, all easy smiles and flowing stories. They seemed to have found them pretty easily too. For people making $200k out of writing fake news, I was surprised that some of them can't even speak a word of English, they needed a translator in both directions. More fake news about fake news?
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 27-11-16 at 18:45.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I saw them on TV, all easy smiles and flowing stories. They seemed to have found them pretty easily too. For people making $200k out of writing fake news, I was surprised that some of them can't even speak a word of English, they needed a translator in both directions. More fake news about fake news?
    There is something not right about it

  21. #46

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    There is something not right about it
    Oh well, as long as people like TruBlue continue to swallow the bullshit they will carry on producing it

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    Oh no, it's Dumb and Dumber
    I was going to call us Dumb and Dumber but then remembered that you were Jim Carreys brother, wrote the film, designed the set and flew the plane to get the whole cast there........

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

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    Oh well, as long as people like TruBlue continue to swallow the bullshit they will carry on producing it
    Here's an open test, who out of me or you over the years has linked to the

    1. Daily Mail

    or

    2. BBC

    ?

    Easily searched

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    Here's an open test, who out of me or you over the years has linked to the

    1. Daily Mail

    or

    2. BBC

    ?

    Easily searched
    I told you before mate, those links are for people like you They need to be triangulated first though, before I post them

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    This has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen, the BBC advising people on how to avoid 'fake news'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38053324

    Some of the biggest peddlers of ‘fake news’ and ‘post-truth politics’ out there are saying the same things, here are just a few..

    CNN recommended a "triple check before you share" rule, maybe they should take their own advice?
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/30/medi...inkId=30509412

    How To Recognize A Fake News Story
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b058ce7aaba169

    Angela Merkel warns against internet trolls and 'fake news' that threaten democracy
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angela-merk...ocracy-1593148

    Fake News May Not Be Protected Speech
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...otected-speech

    Don't be fooled by this sudden concern for truth, this is a fake epidemic of fake news, this is an attack on alternative media, google and facebook are already banning 'fake news' web sites from their advertising networks and there are calls for more to be done, you don't have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to work out where this is going..
    The current attack on alternative news is probably the last throw of the dice to suppress pizzagate

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