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    The fake epidemic of fake news

    This has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen, the BBC advising people on how to avoid 'fake news'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38053324

    Some of the biggest peddlers of ‘fake news’ and ‘post-truth politics’ out there are saying the same things, here are just a few..

    CNN recommended a "triple check before you share" rule, maybe they should take their own advice?
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/30/medi...inkId=30509412

    How To Recognize A Fake News Story
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b058ce7aaba169

    Angela Merkel warns against internet trolls and 'fake news' that threaten democracy
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angela-merk...ocracy-1593148

    Fake News May Not Be Protected Speech
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...otected-speech

    Don't be fooled by this sudden concern for truth, this is a fake epidemic of fake news, this is an attack on alternative media, google and facebook are already banning 'fake news' web sites from their advertising networks and there are calls for more to be done, you don't have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to work out where this is going..

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    It looks a bit coordinated to me

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It looks a bit coordinated to me
    A fine example of The Hegelian dialectic I'm sure they have a solution in mind.

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    I suppose you pick and choose where you get your information.

    What sites do you two use?.

    Al Monitor is good.

    Bloomberg is good for reporting on things. But not for opinion. They release a ridiculous amount.

    I'e subscribed to: http://foreignpolicy.com/ Is that ok or is it totally American leaning?.

    Most of the BBC stuff is far better than you'll find on unpaid media.

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    Twitter have also jumped on the "fake news" bandwagon, so it was quite bizzare that when a user discovered a massive 5,000+ child porn ring openly sharing videos and photos, Twitter decided to suspend the person because they reported it!

    So far the non-fake news MSM have failed to mention it
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 25-11-16 at 16:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Twitter have also jumped on the "fake news" bandwagon, so it was quite bizzare that when a user discovered a massive 5,000+ child porn ring openly sharing videos and photos, that Twitter decided to ban the person who reported it!

    So far the non-fake news MSM have failed to mention it
    do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon ps when is it

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon ps when is it
    You think it's funny that children are being abused?

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You think it's funny that children are being abused?
    can you show me where i said that, talk about putting words

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    Actually the Daily Star of all people decided to report on it - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...media-accounts

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You think it's funny that children are being abused?
    ps msm are fairly interested in the football abuse story, lead story on the BBC

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Actually the Daily Star of all people decided to report on it - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...media-accounts
    an oops for you again

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    an oops for you again
    Well the story has been verified as being true.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well the story has been verified as being true.
    Does the fact that some white helmets make some stories up mean all aid workers are not credible.

    Like the fact some migrants were playing up to the cameras. Does that mean all migrants are now liars on a smash and grab job?. No.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    I suppose you pick and choose where you get your information.

    What sites do you two use?.

    Al Monitor is good.

    Bloomberg is good for reporting on things. But not for opinion. They release a ridiculous amount.

    I'e subscribed to: http://foreignpolicy.com/ Is that ok or is it totally American leaning?.

    Most of the BBC stuff is far better than you'll find on unpaid media.
    I picked those randomly out of the 'fake news' search results, my point is they are all saying the same things, I just selected a few that's all, I've never heard of Al Monitor and I don't use foreignpolicy either.

    You must have seen some of my previous posts about the bbc?

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    Does the fact that some white helmets make some stories up mean all aid workers are not credible.

    Like the fact some migrants were playing up to the cameras. Does that mean all migrants are now liars on a smash and grab job?. No.
    I certainly don't think like that, every case should be looked at individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon ps when is it
    Actually you don't have to do anything, the info is all over the internet. I guess that's what this fake news thing is all about.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
    In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

    Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    That BBC one is hilarious – not just spotting fake news but how to grass it up. It’s not like the Beeb have ever tried to shape our perception through omission and emphasis is it? Still, at least they don't make stuff up.......

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
    In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

    Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.
    I'm with you - a range of news sources provides a more 3D view of the world. And Channel 4 news is deffo better than the Beeb. The recent Cathy Newman v Milo Yiannopoulos dust up was great.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
    In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

    Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.
    But Jon Snow's socks? Can't approve of that.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    I know some are suspicious of Patrick Henningsen, but I think he's the real deal. I particularly like that he is consciously bi-partizan.



    Obama and Merkel's recent rhetoric is quite transparent and terrifying, the subtext for which is about policing free speech the internet. Add this possibility to the now in place "Snoopers charter" and we can be conclusive about what the agenda is.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    But Jon Snow's socks? Can't approve of that.
    I tape a piece of card across the bottom of the telly...

    Yeah, it's a low down trick. Damn censorship again .. !

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabalphaville View Post
    That BBC one is hilarious – not just spotting fake news but how to grass it up. It’s not like the Beeb have ever tried to shape our perception through omission and emphasis is it? Still, at least they don't make stuff up.......
    Don't get me started.. again

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in the Face View Post
    I know some are suspicious of Patrick Henningsen, but I think he's the real deal. I particularly like that he is consciously bi-partizan.



    Obama and Merkel's recent rhetoric is quite transparent and terrifying, the subtext for which is about policing free speech the internet. Add this possibility to the now in place "Snoopers charter" and we can be conclusive about what the agenda is.
    The old 'threat to democracy' card, Obama “If we are not serious about facts and what’s true and what’s not, if we can’t discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems,”

    Weapons of mass destruction spring to mind..

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met
    I have never posted a link from that site, this thread is not about main stream news, it's about the epidemic of fake news sites that has flooded facebook and other social media for the last few months, it's a deliberate flood of completely fabricated stories so they can push for more censorship of the internet.

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    Re: The fake epidemic of fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met
    This is a very profound statement, but it is also a logical fallacy. With a view like this you will open yourself up to even more fake news and propaganda. No one side is better than the other, but taken as a whole you will find the truth somewhere in between.

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