Russian ambassador to Turkey shot dead over aleppo

[LordKenwyne]

The BBC are reporting he was "an Ankara riot police member." It's unlikely they would get their facts wrong.

Some news networks were reporting on him as a retired policeman.

Others said off duty.

Then some people were saying it was an accident.

Reuters released the news the driver was polish. Then they corrected themselves to say the truck was polish. Then they said the passenger was polish as well.

etc, etc.

The joys of "breaking news"!.

[Wales-Bales]

Some news networks were reporting on him as a retired policeman.

Others said off duty.

Then some people were saying it was an accident.

Reuters released the news the driver was polish. Then they corrected themselves to say the truck was polish. Then they said the passenger was polish as well.

etc, etc.

The joys of "breaking news"!.

So there is a short timeframe where they are allowed to make things up

BTW special forces usually conduct special operations, they are highly disciplined and chosen for their psychological profile, so no loose cannons they are trained to follow specific orders without deviation.

[LordKenwyne]

So there is a short timeframe where they are allowed to make things up

BTW special forces usually conduct special operations, they are highly disciplined and chosen for their psychological profile, so no loose cannons they are trained to follow specific orders without deviation.

Ye I went a bit OTT when I saw he was supposedly special forces.

WW3 and franz ferdinand and all that

Then Putin and Erdogan released statements and it calmed it a bit.

[Wales-Bales]

Ye I went a bit OTT when I saw he was supposedly special forces.

WW3 and franz ferdinand and all that

Then Putin and Erdogan released statements and it calmed it a bit.

Yes, the story changes quite considerably depending on whether you state he was a member of the special forces, or as the BBC reported an Ankara riot police member.

[Packerman]

So there is a short timeframe where they are allowed to make things up

BTW special forces usually conduct special operations, they are highly disciplined and chosen for their psychological profile, so no loose cannons they are trained to follow specific orders without deviation.

i,ve met a few ex special forces who were mad as feck

[Wales-Bales]

i,ve met a few ex special forces who were mad as feck

Some of them may be mad, but they can be relied upon to get the job done

[lardy]

Some of them may be mad, but they can be relied upon to get the job done

For how many years were you one?

[Mrs Steve R]

For how many years were you one?

Are you suggesting he's mad?

[lardy]

Are you suggesting he's mad?

No, guess again

[Wales-Bales]

For how many years were you one?

I'm not going to reveal my sources to a sniper on a message board

[Vimana.]

There may be some people who post on this MB who have through the horrors of conflict, have witnessed horrific scenes first-hand, and may chime in on this, but -
I'm pretty sure that if you fire a pistol into a person multiple times at close range there is a hell of a mess.
When they hit the floor, they twitch about for a long time.
Blood spatters abound, and blood seeps rapidly from the body.

What was it that we 'saw'?

[Mrs Steve R]

Is there a suggestion that the Russians were in cahoots with the guy who shot the ambassador, withdrew his security detail, all presumably to justify further Russian aggression?

I have no idea, I will wait until more information comes out, I was just saying it looks dodgy.. because it does.

So there is a short timeframe where they are allowed to make things up

BTW special forces usually conduct special operations, they are highly disciplined and chosen for their psychological profile, so no loose cannons they are trained to follow specific orders without deviation.

Usually about ten years