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    Re: India v England Fifth Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    You can Justify it all you want.....At the end of the Day the team on display is called England and their Badge has 3 lions on it.
    and that has nothing to do with Wales.
    I'm not justifying anything.

    If you're such an opponent of England as a test nation, who should the best Welsh players represent? Wales as a minor county? Forget about Wales as a test nation as it would collapse in no time through no money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I'm not justifying anything.

    If you're such an opponent of England as a test nation, who should the best Welsh players represent? Wales as a minor county? Forget about Wales as a test nation as it would collapse in no time through no money.
    Same as the football.....Glamorgan play in the english system welsh players should play for Wales.

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    Re: India v England Fifth Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Same as the football.....Glamorgan play in the english system welsh players should play for Wales.
    It has to be said that such a move would deny good Welsh players the opportunity to play at the top level. I presume you're ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It has to be said that such a move would deny good Welsh players the opportunity to play at the top level. I presume you're ok with that.
    Absolutely

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    Re: India v England Fifth Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Absolutely
    They'll never play Test cricket, so what will happen, like Ireland, the best players won't bother to play for Wales so they can become England qualified, which they probably already are because of the UK's status. It isn't like football, at all. Wales will be playing 2 odi games and funding for the game will dry up, meaning facilities will decrease and less kids will be playing cricket. We'll play at best, 2 games a year, probably lose them because they'll be in Nepal etc, and we'll never get anywhere.

    There are 9 decent Test sides (I'm not counting Zimbabwe) in the world, and then a handful of smaller nations that will never get a seat a the top table, cricket is a closed club, regardless of what the ICC say.

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    I'm a bit saddened that the many people who want to watch Wales play cricket don't actually watch Wales play cricket. I mean there is a team called Wales and they play other counties at minor county level. If the thousands of fans started turning up to these games, people would see the demand for Welsh team representation and it could start from there.

    At the moment the protesters feel like the best way to get their aims is to spout off on message boards and start petitions, whilst at the same time 1 man and his dog are actually turning up to games.

    The message sent is that people actually involved in either running or supporting cricket in this country are not interested in Wales. It would take a huge change in structure for us to run anything near a professional structure in this country as an independent nation.

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    I would be happy if the press/media/pundits started to say 'the EWCB' instead of 'the ECB'.

    Ideally the matches would be England & Wales vs whoever, not England vs.... but that is a much bigger change and against the weight of history and custom. After all, it took Tobago decades of messageboard campaigning before they got the recognition they deserved!

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    I can see why people are uncomfortable with the situation and the pompous media are the main reason for this. I think it is easier to stomach if one looks on it as seeing "England" as the brand.

    Robert Croft in his England days likened playing for Glamorgan as playing for Wales and playing for England as the British Lions.

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