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    The Usk murder trial - verdict

    I followed this trial very closely, mainly because I know the girl's brother.
    For me it was always going to be a murder verdict because that is what he done.
    But I think a minimum of 25 years is a little over the top considering he was being blackmailed and the girl as got history for it.
    I honestly thought he would get between 10 and 15 years.
    Anyone else agree, disagree?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38314421

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    I am surprised our liberal justice system didn't fall for his "I am autistic, poor me, poor me" speech.

    Shocking story, first time I have been aware of it today.

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    Re: The Usk murder trial - verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    I followed this trial very closely, mainly because I know the girl's brother.
    For me it was always going to be a murder verdict because that is what he done.
    But I think a minimum of 25 years is a little over the top considering he was being blackmailed and the girl as got history for it.
    I honestly thought he would get between 10 and 15 years.
    Anyone else agree, disagree?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38314421
    I don't think there can be any doubt it was premeditated based on what has been presented in the press about the trial. Even if he is mentally ill I'm not sure how you can introduce that as a defence that should reduce the prison sentence without essentially trivialising murder by autistic people.

    Very sad case and no-one comes out of it well

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    A prositute is a prostitute whatever they call themselves. He must have had the charisma of a brick to be a multimillionaire and have to resort to paying for it, He was a complete control freak by the sound of it. All that money and he is going to be in his 80s when he comes out , unless he meets anyone in the big house that knew the woman.

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    Re: The Usk murder trial - verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    I followed this trial very closely, mainly because I know the girl's brother.
    For me it was always going to be a murder verdict because that is what he done.
    But I think a minimum of 25 years is a little over the top considering he was being blackmailed and the girl as got history for it.
    I honestly thought he would get between 10 and 15 years.
    Anyone else agree, disagree?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38314421


    Just because he was being blackmailed doesn't mean he should have had a lesser sentence

    25 years for murder I think he got off very lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird View Post
    Just because he was being blackmailed doesn't mean he should have had a lesser sentence

    25 years for murder I think he got off very lucky.
    Nah, 25 years minimum for that amount of mitigation is way too long.

    Meanwhile, perhaps a more shocking South Wales case was concluded yesterday when a mother was found guilty of conspiring with a bloke to rape her own seven-year-old daughter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-38385019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Nah, 25 years minimum for that amount of mitigation is way too long.

    Meanwhile, perhaps a more shocking South Wales case was concluded yesterday when a mother was found guilty of conspiring with a bloke to rape her own seven-year-old daughter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-38385019
    I have not heard anything about this case until your post. I despair, I really do. Is there no limit to the depth of human depravity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    I don't think there can be any doubt it was premeditated based on what has been presented in the press about the trial. Even if he is mentally ill I'm not sure how you can introduce that as a defence that should reduce the prison sentence without essentially trivialising murder by autistic people.

    Very sad case and no-one comes out of it well
    Does anyone have knowledge/experience of jury duty? How shielded are you from the press reports?

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    Depends how honest a jury member is I think. If they go home or someone elses home they have the PC so its their integrity which what matters .

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