Reply With QuoteIt would be Osian Roberts or Giggs. Hartson or Saunders may throw their hats in the ring but they won't get the job. Mark Bowen Perhaps an outside contender?
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Who would be likely candidates for the Welsh Managers job?
It would be Osian Roberts or Giggs. Hartson or Saunders may throw their hats in the ring but they won't get the job. Mark Bowen Perhaps an outside contender?
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I would clap my hands with gusto and jump up and down.
The way he chews gum with his big gob open, they deserve each other.
Probably Giggs
Kenny Jackett perhaps?
Giggs would be mad to walk straight into a tough relegation battle at a club in turmoil in his first managerial job. I reckon he's more likely to hold out to stay up north and end up somewhere like Stoke or Burnley or even taking a shot at getting at getting the likes of Preston or Blackburn promoted.
If Coleman goes to the jacks, and I doubt he will, I think Osian Roberts is a dead cert to take over. He'd be popular with players and fans alike.
Cookie has it in him to take the jacks down a division or 2
Who ever take's the job on has a shit load of work to do.
I have to agree.Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Giggs will not want to do a Solskaer and even if he did take the job on, he would want to tap into the MU talent and find it tough to get players to venture down West.
Also the Welsh FA aren't renowned for flashing the cash and Osian would be the cheaper option.
I do see Coleman jumping at the chance to manage Swansea, especially as cracks in his Welsh side have began to appear.
Giggs .
If I was Gigg's I would stay quiet on the Swansea job as its a poison chalice and they need a Neil type battler now , he is not equipped or experienced enough for it , the International stage however would suit him much better .
I don't think Coleman would take it though backward step for him .
Outside money for me ,Alan Pardew , Frank De Boer or beg Monk to come back he did nothing wrong and knows the club
I suppose the Wales job would appeal to Giggs a lot more now that we don't play friendlies.
Agree with thisCookie has it in him to take the jacks down a division or 2
Over rated and arrogant man who was gifted a team with some real quality and builds his teams to spoil.
I suspect he'd go back to his previous managerial record of meh!
I think that's really unfair on Coleman. Plenty of Wales managers have had very talented individuals in the team in the past and failed to do anything at all, let alone reach the semi finals of a major tournament. I'm not sure how you can call him arrogant either. Over the last year or two I think he's cone across as modest, and you'd certainly struggle to find a manager that genuinely cares about Wales as much as him.
Fair enough.
I don't agree with it (last comment aside) though. I'd predict that 3 months of him being the Jacks manager might change your mind however with his demeanour of self importance.
No other Welsh manager was gifted qualification by the rule changes either don't forget
Don't get me wrong here, if he was made jacks boss I would wish nothing but abject failure on him, as I would for anyone that takes charge of them.
That or 'I'm a Celebrity' ..
What has Giggs proven to already deserve a shot at managing any National team? - whether it 'suits him' or not!
He should be looking to prove himself a lower level and working his way up. If he proved himself it truly wouldn't take him long to rise rapidly.
I'll bet that isn't how it goes though eh?
Last edited by Vimana.; 28-12-16 at 18:49.
Agree with this, he has done nothing to prove he should have a shot at this other than his own feeling of entitlement
Also would we want a treacherous sleazy bastard like that as our National team Manager?
What a brilliant combination, at least we be spared from listening to his dull monotonous voice every couple of weeks
another one who gets by on his past glories as a player rather than any talent required for the job
I would miss the weird names that Ratcliffe comes up with for the players though
I'm not the greatest fan of Coleman and have a feeling that the players got to the semis of the Euros despite Coleman. Wales played each match (bar one) with no pressure and the players themselves said they looked at it as a holiday. Since then, the pressure has been on us and we've not looked a patch on the side that played in France. When Coleman really needs to earn his corn, it seems we can't get results.
Coleman's record as a club manager is hardly great, either. He's a high profile manager at the moment and defensively minded, but I reckon that Swansea would be nailed on to go down if he was appointed.
Some things posted in this thread are in need of comment.
Giggs is not in a strong position. Perhaps strong enough to hold out on a relegation threatened team, however if the reports of him giving a poor interview when Bob Bradley got the job are true then he's quite far away from taking over a team in a safe position. Apart from Swansea the club he has had the strongest links with in the media is Wigan and they went for a Man United youth coach over Giggs. Giggs has also fairly recently indicated that he's not completely willing to drop down the leagues to find his first job. There are a number of reasons that Swansea is a good first job for Giggs including that a large reason he's been linked with such a high profile job is that he's Welsh, and that there is so little risk to his reputation unless he Alan Shearer's it.
There are a few things that would suggest make it less likely; Gary Neville may advise that such a difficult job is not best for your first go and that his reputation is not diminishing while he can continue to learn and continue to be paid well as a pundit.
I don't think Swansea will be able to tempt a De Boer now. They would also be unusually unwise to go through a season of turmoil only to hand the job of next years survival to a man who specialises in extremely good and then extremely bad runs of form.
If I were Swansea I would be considering a Roy Hodgson or a Gary Rowett. The former's last job dictates that he may need to save a Swansea like situation (think back to what he did at Fulham) to re-energise his career while the latter seems to be on the way up and knows the Championship if the worst came to the worst.
Chris Coleman is not a bad manager. His strengths may be better placed in international football where creating the right camp for talented players is such a key part to it, however that is a role that so many international managers (usually of the Dutch or English sides) can fail to do and should not be dismissed. I do not think it's fair to say Coleman is arrogant at all nor that he's overrated: we had a wonderful summer and still most people recognise that not everything will be great in Welsh football here on in. It's also wrong to suggest that we were gifted qualification by a rule change when surely we did enough to make it into the play-offs under any rules, and that Israel would have had so much less to play for and once their mindset is changed we may even top the group. It's such an easy way to undermine what was achieved but is being negative for negatives sake.
Speaking of which, I do not think it fair to be overly critical of anyone in the Welsh camp for this qualification period not going as well as the previous. We still go into games as one of the smaller footballing nations and have been a little unlucky so far in the qualification campaign. There were some speaking of Russia after our first game and there are some now questioning what has been achieved in recent memory. Yet we achieved that by taking one game at a time, enjoying the challenge and being prepared to believe in Together Stronger. Keep our heads up and be prepared to work hard for it.
Osian Roberts may have the first refusal of the Welsh job, especially if we needed someone in the short term, but there are reasons he may wish to refuse and reasons the Welsh FA may not wish for him to have to step up. He plays and enormous role currently, and does it well, but also gets to avoid the pressures associated with the international management spotlight. Not to say that he wouldn't thrive in it but it's not a role that he has experience of yet.
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