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    Gina Miller

    Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords

    Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords

    Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?
    Not at all. But she is asking the UK courts whether the UK government is attempting to take the 'piss' out of U.K. law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords

    Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?
    It's far better to live in a country where the public can challenge the rulers. How can anyone question or doubt whether its a good thing? If she is taking the piss, then the case won't even get started.

    By the way, the initial case was not about the 'validity of the Brexit vote'.

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    Thought this was another RIP

    BORING

    POLITICS FORUM PLEASE "BOSS"

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords

    Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?
    Brexit means Brexit

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Brexit means Brexit
    Yes, but what does that mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Brexit means Brexit
    Beanz meanz Heinz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ring_Peace View Post
    Beanz meanz Heinz
    Beanz Meanz Cross & Blackwell

    Heinz are shite

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Yes, but what does that mean?
    It means that was what the majority of those that took part in the referendum voted for. Which was to leave the European Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    It means that was what the majority of those that took part in the referendum voted for. Which was to leave the European Union
    exactly

    just smacks of a sore loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    It means that was what the majority of those that took part in the referendum voted for. Which was to leave the European Union
    And brexit we will, but surely you'd prefer that brexit to be delivered via full consultation will your elected members of parliament rather than dictated to you by an individual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itkman View Post
    And brexit we will, but surely you'd prefer that brexit to be delivered via full consultation will your elected members of parliament rather than dictated to you by an individual?
    A few people on this board could do with reading up on what the case was actually about instead of just glancing at an ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE headline.

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Ms Miller is the founder and chairman of Miller Philanthropy, which she launched with her husband Alan, the original “Mr Hedge Fund”, who made more than £30 million in the City.

    Peoples champion obviously.

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    Re: Gina Miller

    I wonder who her puppeteer is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords

    Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?
    Easy answer which you may or may not like , it is a wonderful democracy in action , be proud of it at least we haven't got a man r killing/imprisoning us if we don't agree , be proud , even if it annoys , we are one of the most democratic society's in the world .

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Yes, but what does that mean?
    Well its not as one Welsh MP put it breakfast .

    On reflection, do you think some of the folk voted leave thought they were voting for or against breakfast , which might explain a lot of outpouring of emotion on this matter from folk who don't usually know where the ballot box is situated or how to vote .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    It means that was what the majority of those that took part in the referendum voted for. Which was to leave the European Union
    Did the Referendum ask whether we wanted to sever all ties with the EU? Nope it didn't. We will be leaving the EU but that does not mean we cannot carry on trading with our EU colleagues. We will also need to maintain border security. How can we achieve that without maintaining a relationship with the French?

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    I am glad we live in a country where the government is required to act within the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I am glad we live in a country where the government is required to act within the law.
    Did you get that from a Christmas cracker?

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Brexit means Brexit

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Yes, but what does that mean?
    It's a pointless sound bite by a Prime Minister who appears to specialise in them. She doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as her predecessor was, but she does confirm a general impression that this Government isn't much cop and and would be in some trouble if the main opposition party was not a complete and utter shambles.

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Brexit means Brexit

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Yes, but what does that mean?
    It's a pointless sound bite by a Prime Minister who appears to specialise in them. She doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as her predecessor was, but she does confirm a general impression that this Government isn't much cop and and would be in some trouble if the main opposition party was not a complete and utter shambles.

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    Sorry for the repeat post, it's cold outside and, of course we all know that this slows down your Internet connection to an absolute snail's pace when that happens. Also, the cold means that when you are told that websites cannot be reached, they actually can be, but, very, very slowly - hence my multiple attempts over a fifteen minute period to post one short message, BT broadband, what a winner!
    Last edited by the other bob wilson; 30-12-16 at 06:01.

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I am glad we live in a country where the government is required to act within the law.
    Agreed,
    Do you believe that all citizens of the said country should act within the law ?

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    She - just like us is entitled to do whatever she wants as long as it is within the law. Well that's one side of the argument.

    The other side being she and her mate 'the pimlico plumber' are obviously doing this for the express reason of slowing down the already slow process and trying to get it all bogged down in red tape. What is there to stop the Govt from passing a law to say that they will have the final say and not the supreme court etc.

    It's all political gesturing and whether you approve or not is down to your stand point I guess.

    It could however be a whole lot worse, Prime Minister Corbyn idea of Brexit would be

    The Brexit vote meant leave the EU, with the ability to create UK laws which could not be usurped by any EU institution and as such striek trade deals, claim back fishing rights etc etc etc and everything else - so anything or anybody within the EU which stops that - we should not be part of.

    Like it or not that was what was voted for - and the UK needs to ensure that happens.

    Personally - the whole question should never have been asked - and it was an impossible answer (internal EU reform was needed, free movement of people pre Maastright etc as an example ), but the result happened, anything else and we may not be as democratic as we tell others to be.

    UK growth forecast to go from 2.2 to 1.4% , Germany forecast to go from 1.4% growth to 1.0% in 2017. Uncertain times ahead for all it seems. I guess no one saw the ex Australian commissioner interview about what happened the week after Brexit - it seems there is a queue forming. Very interesting times ahead full of opportunity, maybe upsetting the apple cart was needed for reform all round
    The rest of Parliament, which is the point of the initial case.

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    Re: Gina Miller

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I know - that was the point I was trying to make.

    Gina Miller goes to court to prove a point of law
    As long as there is a parliamentary will - then the Govt can enact law to make what she is trying to do illegal.

    Ironically - this could go all the way the to the EU courts - and how bizarre would that be
    This makes no sense. You are saying that Parliament might pass a law or act which hands power completely to the government and away from Parliament?

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