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Having taken the government to the Supreme Court regarding the validity of the Brexit vote she is now threatening to go to court again to push for the matter to be fully discussed in the House of Lords
Is this democracy in action or is she taking the 'piss' out of the UK democratic process?
Not at all. But she is asking the UK courts whether the UK government is attempting to take the 'piss' out of U.K. law.Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
It's far better to live in a country where the public can challenge the rulers. How can anyone question or doubt whether its a good thing? If she is taking the piss, then the case won't even get started.
By the way, the initial case was not about the 'validity of the Brexit vote'.
Thought this was another RIP
BORING
POLITICS FORUM PLEASE "BOSS"
Brexit means Brexit
Yes, but what does that mean?
It means that was what the majority of those that took part in the referendum voted for. Which was to leave the European Union
exactly
just smacks of a sore loser
Did the Referendum ask whether we wanted to sever all ties with the EU? Nope it didn't. We will be leaving the EU but that does not mean we cannot carry on trading with our EU colleagues. We will also need to maintain border security. How can we achieve that without maintaining a relationship with the French?
I am glad we live in a country where the government is required to act within the law.
Yes - that is what was on the ballot paper but it doesn't answer the question.
Will the UK leave and adopt a Norway/Switzerland/Canada relationship with the EU? Will it follow some other model? Will we leave the EU and its institutions and have no trade, 'security', environmental.... agreements in place. Will Brexit be hard or soft? I hate the terms, but they do attempt to describe the range of relationships, agreements and treaties that could replace what we have now.
The most annoying thing about 'Brexit means brexit' is that it means nothing. It is (as others have said on this thread) a vacuous soundbite. When challenged Brexiteers pile in to explain to simpletons like me what the vote really meant - and every one of them puts their own spin and interpretation on a ballot question that was deliberately open and vague, and produces mutually contradictory answers on both process and outcome. Most of them would be disasterous in my view - with the UK lunatics screwing up our asylum.
Yes leave - but you can be out and yet still have ties to the EU like other non-EU states, and many on the leave side were advocating these alternative models during the campaign. Then a few campaigners for constitutional and legal clarity come along and get destroyed by the mainstream press and the alt squad for daring to say this is not as simple as 'Brexit means brexit'!
Well its not as one Welsh MP put it breakfast .
On reflection, do you think some of the folk voted leave thought they were voting for or against breakfast , which might explain a lot of outpouring of emotion on this matter from folk who don't usually know where the ballot box is situated or how to vote .
Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
Brexit means Brexit
It's a pointless sound bite by a Prime Minister who appears to specialise in them. She doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as her predecessor was, but she does confirm a general impression that this Government isn't much cop and and would be in some trouble if the main opposition party was not a complete and utter shambles.
Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
Brexit means Brexit
It's a pointless sound bite by a Prime Minister who appears to specialise in them. She doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as her predecessor was, but she does confirm a general impression that this Government isn't much cop and and would be in some trouble if the main opposition party was not a complete and utter shambles.
She rarely says anything of real gravitas. The speech about Brexit being for everyone is quite typical of her utterances. Totally vacuous.
Sorry for the repeat post, it's cold outside and, of course we all know that this slows down your Internet connection to an absolute snail's pace when that happens. Also, the cold means that when you are told that websites cannot be reached, they actually can be, but, very, very slowly - hence my multiple attempts over a fifteen minute period to post one short message, BT broadband, what a winner!
Last edited by the other bob wilson; 30-12-16 at 06:01.
Beanz meanz Heinz
Beanz Meanz Cross & Blackwell
Heinz are shite
And brexit we will, but surely you'd prefer that brexit to be delivered via full consultation will your elected members of parliament rather than dictated to you by an individual?
A few people on this board could do with reading up on what the case was actually about instead of just glancing at an ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE headline.
Ms Miller is the founder and chairman of Miller Philanthropy, which she launched with her husband Alan, the original “Mr Hedge Fund”, who made more than £30 million in the City.
Peoples champion obviously.
I wonder who her puppeteer is?
Easy answer which you may or may not like , it is a wonderful democracy in action , be proud of it at least we haven't got a man r killing/imprisoning us if we don't agree , be proud , even if it annoys , we are one of the most democratic society's in the world .
If its as simple as you say, I have two questions.
1. Why didn't the government do this (just change the law)?
2. Why have I never seen a political commentator suggest this action as an option?
It all sounds like wishing for more wishes to me. Surely it isn't possible.
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