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    Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    I'm hoping we bring in three or four players in the next few weeks. Will City spend a good amount or go for cheap options?

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Cheap options

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    How much would the Barnsley team cost? Asking for a friend.
    Phone them

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Good question, why is he still here? I don't think it's for the love of the club seeing as he don't bother coming to the CCS anymore.
    Our chances of reaching the Prem any time soon are remote so VT leaving the club is the more likely scenario imho.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Good question, why is he still here? I don't think it's for the love of the club seeing as he don't bother coming to the CCS anymore.
    Our chances of reaching the Prem any time soon are remote so VT leaving the club is the more likely scenario imho.
    They've been remote since we were relegated. Not at any stage has the club looked capable of getting back to the top flight. Finally we have a manager in place that knows what it takes to get there and can lay the foundations if he doesn't actually get us there. I think the club realise they've made poor appointments in terms of managers and, in turn, our transfer strategy has failed abysmally.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    They've been remote since we were relegated. Not at any stage has the club looked capable of getting back to the top flight. Finally we have a manager in place that knows what it takes to get there and can lay the foundations if he doesn't actually get us there. I think the club realise they've made poor appointments in terms of managers and, in turn, our transfer strategy has failed abysmally.
    I'm not allowed to discuss previous managers but we did threaten a play off spot not so long ago. Neil has a good track record so hopefully he can get us there one day.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Good question, why is he still here? I don't think it's for the love of the club seeing as he don't bother coming to the CCS anymore.
    Our chances of reaching the Prem any time soon are remote so VT leaving the club is the more likely scenario imho.
    I think he's here to stay until we are a top ten premiership club and even then i don't believe he will sell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    I think he's here to stay until we are a top ten premiership club and even then i don't believe he will sell..
    I agree Stan. The reason is that in the premiership he will be high profile and in the News every week, consequently his profile is enhanced , In the championship he is A.N.Other.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    I think he's here to stay until we are a top ten premiership club and even then i don't believe he will sell..
    Has Tan found the elixir of life?

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Has Tan found the elixir of life?
    Trust you to go off topic.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    I can see us building in this window and adding to it in the summer to make a serious push for promotion next season.
    The only promotion push would be from league 1

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Vinny's commitment is evidenced by Dalman's remarks about him being up till all hours with a mug of Horlicks in one hand and a transistor radio in the other pressed against an ear to listen to games. I'm confident he'll stretch an arm down the back of his settee if necessary to provide the funds required by Colin to purchase some top-notch acquisitions.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Vinny's commitment is evidenced by Dalman's remarks about him being up till all hours with a mug of Horlicks in one hand and a transistor radio in the other pressed against an ear to listen to games. I'm confident he'll stretch an arm down the back of his settee if necessary to provide the funds required by Colin to purchase some top-notch acquisitions.
    I agree, he hasn't become what he is by being a quitter that's for sure. I think we will be in a good place by the end of the season.If Neil can get us settled down by then we will be ok.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    So far, the club have tried to stay within the financial fair play regulations and, if that remains the case, the only way we'll be "splashing the cash" in the coming window is if we receive millions for players leaving during January. The regulations have been relaxed yet again in a way that almost encourages clubs to break them in the hope they can get promoted in the three year period they are now allowed and it would be pretty typical of the ham fisted way in which the club has been run since we got promoted if, having, essentially, used the parachute payments to try to balance the books, we now started spending heavily again just as they were running out.

    Brighton's accounts for 15/16 were recently released and showed that they have lost a total of £36 million since May 2014, so a loss of £3 million in their 16/17 accounts would see them breaking the rules, but their likely promotion means that they will probably consider that a price well worth paying. So, there is massive scope for City to spend big if they were that way inclined, but everything we've seen from the club since Russell Slade was appointed says it won't be happening - our current manager has also talked about the importance of staying within budget as well.

    We need to start discovering the knack of buying players that can be sold for more than we paid for them and if we can do that, we may then be in a position where we could build a squad that might challenge for promotion while staying within the FFP regulations,
    Last edited by the other bob wilson; 31-12-16 at 22:47.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So far, the club have tried to stay within the financial fair play regulations and, if that remains the case, the only way we'll be "splashing the cash" in the coming window is if we receive millions for players leaving during January. The regulations have been relaxed yet again in a way that almost encourages clubs to break them in the hope they can get promoted in the three year period they are now allowed and it would be pretty typical of the ham fisted way in which the club has been run since we got promoted if, having, essentially, used the parachute payments to try to balance the books, we now started spending heavily again just as they were running out.

    Brighton's accounts for 15/16 were recently released and showed that they have lost a total of £36 million since May 2014, so a loss of £3 million in their 16/17 accounts would see them breaking the rules, but their likely promotion means that they will probably consider that a price well worth paying. So, there is massive scope for City to spend big if they were that way inclined, but everything we've seen from the club since Russell Slade was appointed says it won't be happening - our current manager has also talked about the importance of staying within budget as well.

    We need to start discovering the knack of buying players that can be sold for more than we paid for them and if we can do that, we may then be in a position where we could build a squad that might challenge for promotion while staying within the FFP regulations,
    Surely Neil is the guy to find those sort of players Bob?

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad as a fish View Post
    Surely Neil is the guy to find those sort of players Bob?
    If we can get Hoillet to sign a longer contract, he will have signed one and if Zohore was to maintain the form he's shown recently for a few months, he would be someone who Warnock will have improved to the extent that he might fall into that category. However, when I think of "typical" Neil Warnock type signings it's more experienced players with little sell on value (e.g. Paddy Kenny, Shaun Derry and Clint Hill) as opposed to younger ones on their way up - maybe others can come up with some, but I'm struggling to think of many cheapish Warnock signings that have gone on to be sold for millions more than he paid for them.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    I do not feel we are in one of the same places we have been with Tan previously. Not to say that he will put in millions again but hopefully we're closer to where we were in Malky's first season: there is some money to be spent but it must be spent wisely.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I do not feel we are in one of the same places we have been with Tan previously. Not to say that he will put in millions again but hopefully we're closer to where we were in Malky's first season: there is some money to be spent but it must be spent wisely.
    In all fairness I have my doubts that funds were ever released to be spent in any other way than wisely.

    I would be amazed if anything but the bare minimum for survival is spent this month.

    Why would he?

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So far, the club have tried to stay within the financial fair play regulations and, if that remains the case, the only way we'll be "splashing the cash" in the coming window is if we receive millions for players leaving during January. The regulations have been relaxed yet again in a way that almost encourages clubs to break them in the hope they can get promoted in the three year period they are now allowed and it would be pretty typical of the ham fisted way in which the club has been run since we got promoted if, having, essentially, used the parachute payments to try to balance the books, we now started spending heavily again just as they were running out.

    Brighton's accounts for 15/16 were recently released and showed that they have lost a total of £36 million since May 2014, so a loss of £3 million in their 16/17 accounts would see them breaking the rules, but their likely promotion means that they will probably consider that a price well worth paying. So, there is massive scope for City to spend big if they were that way inclined, but everything we've seen from the club since Russell Slade was appointed says it won't be happening - our current manager has also talked about the importance of staying within budget as well.

    We need to start discovering the knack of buying players that can be sold for more than we paid for them and if we can do that, we may then be in a position where we could build a squad that might challenge for promotion while staying within the FFP regulations,
    I believe that NW will be looking to offload 8-9 players in the January and summer window.
    The club needs a shake up and we have quite a number of "fringe" squad players who are never going to get a game.
    Add to that at least 4 first team players that need to leave the club and you can understand that January alone is not going to be the answer.
    I would trust NW to have a better balanced squad by August 2017 and we may be in a position to challenge for a top 6 place, however, small steps at the moment. I do not expect anything major to happen in January.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Tan won't leave any time soon. Remember he said after he first joined that he made the mistake of taking his daughters to a game and after that the got the bug for football, and told him if he ever sold or damaged the club they'd never speak to him again.
    with his daughters and his mother on our side we can't lose!!!!!!

    Plus as someone already mentioned he is still turning debt to equity, not the action someone about to abandon a project, not in my experience.

    what I don't know is if the gradual equity thing he is doing makes our Fair play position better, in respect of buying players.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    If I was Tan I don't feel I would want to pump any funds Into the club after us basically telling him to piss off. I don't see as spending to have another crack at the playoffs as best value back for the club.

    I say that, however he did convert his debt to equity. I for one would welcome the megalomaniac back with open arms. That promotion season was the most enjoyable season I've watched in my minuscule time watching us.

    I don't see the point splashing the cash unless some real value players come along for long term replacements. I would look to a goalkeeper and a centre midfielder for Whitts

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Warnock is an experienced manager and that experience has taught him that there is no point buying cheap youngsters in the hope they will turn into expensive sales. Why would any manager bother given that a run of bad form means they could be out of a job in a matter of weeks. No wonder Warnock opts for experience over potential.

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    I think we'll see 1-2 coming in with reasonable fees, maybe a total of £2-3m spent and 2-3 frees or loans, with a emphasis on experience, physicality and pace

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    I think we'll see 1-2 coming in with reasonable fees, maybe a total of £2-3m spent and 2-3 frees or loans, with a emphasis on experience, physicality and pace
    I would be happy with that as long as the players brought in are part of a long term plan rather than a quick fix

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    Re: Will Cardiff splash the cash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    I think we'll see 1-2 coming in with reasonable fees, maybe a total of £2-3m spent and 2-3 frees or loans, with a emphasis on experience, physicality and pace
    I'd be happy with that provided one of them was a good keeper

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