Reminds me of the character in Dream Academys Life in a Northern Town.
"He sat on the stoney ground, and he took a cigarette out, and everyone else, came round, to listen".
Whilst I enjoy most of his blogs, the majority of responses from fellow posters, seem almost "desciple' like.
The latest one didn't strike any chords with me.
A fighting performance against a piss poor Villa side, is not gonna get my juices flowing.
His references about Malky, and the so called gory days, with just a fleeting reference of the dates, and no mention of Jones seems typical.
We played some of the best football ever seen from a City team under DJ, and were a whisker away from winning the FA cup, and promotion to the premier league, with a lesser budget, and IN BLUE.
I do like most of Bobs Write ups and blogs, but this one seems as premature as a schoolboy looking through the window of a strip club.
Not sure why you couldn't have debated this in the thread concerned.
desciple - That's wrong as well.
That said, I can't help thinking that you misunderstood my intention in using Malky Mackay's 2011/12 team as a foundation to build the piece on. Any notion that I was intending to be critical of Dave Jones somehow exists in your head rather than mine - that was never the reasoning behind what I wrote. My point was that five years ago to the day since the Villa match there was an occasion when the club we support felt like "our Cardiff City" and there were a few more before the end of the 11/12 season when it felt like that. Since then though there have been a series of events, starting with the rebrand, which have dictated that it has barely ever felt like "our Cardiff City".
Recent home matches have seen an increase in excitement and entertainment and, for me, the atmosphere has improved in proportion to this. So many people and players have come and gone from the club in the last few years who never got to see what I'd call a genuine City atmosphere was like, but, if Monday does turn out to be Bruno Manga's last match for us, at least he can leave now having experienced what it feels like on occasions when it is "our Cardiff City" performing out there on the pitch.
One last thing regarding Dave Jones. I feel that Neil Warnock and Malky Mackay possess a degree of charisma that Dave Jones doesn't, but you will see that I said
"So, as I've mentioned in one or two earlier pieces, home matches have become more enjoyable under Neil Warnock, but, five years to the day since that Reading game I mentioned at the start and with Joe Ralls again to the fore, the beating of this expensively assembled Villa team moved things on to a different level - this was what supporting Cardiff City used to feel like on one of those very good days that we had become used to experiencing on a fairly regular basis between the years of 2000 to 2012."
in my piece, the date range I mentioned covered the whole of the period when Dave Jones was manager. There were plenty of occasions during Dave Jones' time in charge when it felt like "our Cardiff City" - I'm just so pleased that it's beginning to feel like that again under Neil Warnock, because it never did under Ole, Russell Slade or Paul Trollope.
I'm amazed he carried on in the game at all.
That said, he was earning a good living at the time from us, and rightly so, shouldn't have been, and wasn't, exempt from Critiscism, for some of the spineless displays from his teams.
As for the feeling of "it's our Cardiff City again", then I agree with you about Warnock. I've always wanted him to manage us. He always gives 100%, what ever club he's at, and his teams usually reflect his siege mentality.
As I said, I usually enjoy your contributions and blogs, but with all that's happened since the play off defeat against West Ham, I feel it's gonna take a lot more than a few battling performances before it feels like my Cardiff City again.
By the way, my earliest memories of supporting the City, was following a sleeping giant, who regularly put in inept performances, and never seemed to be going in anywhere fast,in any direction for most of the time. Lol!
First rule of TOBW:
You dont talk (shit) about TOBW.
**** with Bob, you **** with all of us.
He's like the Lemmy of this board.
Fair play, it's good to have a wealth of diverse contributions and we do need healthy debate, but your few slightly bizarre posts that look like they come from somebody's 'multi' and an exceptionally limp quiz that nobody was interested in wont cut it ;)
If you are keen to make these combative analogies, I'd suggest that you don't go into battle with a (rather bent looking) pea-shooter.
I admit, like I'm more than a reader than a skilled contributor, but I'm looking forward to enjoying your thought provoking contributions.
I said in my first ever post, that I wouldn' be boosting the IQ average on here, and I meant it. 😜
I'm not looking to "take over" anything. I'm just a minute sum of the total parts on here.
Lighten up 👍
Yes sah! Already lightened up and ready for action - sah!
Where I agree about the shocking and almost unbelievable capitulations that we witnessed under DJ that saw the team miss out on promotion, they were far, FAR outweighed by the number of games when the team played well, otherwise surely the team would have been at the other end of the table?!
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Each manager and player should be judged on their merits, performances and results.
Jones was at the club a while and delivered some good times and good football (importantly) as well as the occasional toe-curlingly bad ones.
Trollope on the other hand.......
He is the one at the top. His decisions permeate down. Mackay overspent? Tan should have controlled that.
Bad feeling among fans. I think Cardiff fans would have been mature enough to accept relegation from the top flight. There were protests before the game against Man City, the first home game of the season. Who should be to blame for that?
Tan toppled the first domino and is responsible for the state of the club now.
I agree Tan is to blame for an awful lot of what went wrong after summer 2012, but I don't see how a case can be made against him for the last two criteria I mention in particular. I would say it would be "bizarre" to claim that he was to blame for Slade's boring football and the lack of young, home grown talent coming into the first team - using your logic, Tan will be entirely responsible if the improvement seen in the first team since Warnock arrived is maintained and if we suddenly start bringing in youngsters who prosper in the first team.