Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
Your reaction to someone who disagreed with you is that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'll say the same to you - I was aware of the possibility that it could look as if I was jumping to conclusions too early, so covered myself, or thought I did, with the use of the word "seem" in the title of the piece and with the analogy that a frost could still kill off those "green shoots of recovery" I mentioned. Still, if you disagree with me, then fine - unlike some I can think of, all comments really are welcome.

That said, I can't help thinking that you misunderstood my intention in using Malky Mackay's 2011/12 team as a foundation to build the piece on. Any notion that I was intending to be critical of Dave Jones somehow exists in your head rather than mine - that was never the reasoning behind what I wrote. My point was that five years ago to the day since the Villa match there was an occasion when the club we support felt like "our Cardiff City" and there were a few more before the end of the 11/12 season when it felt like that. Since then though there have been a series of events, starting with the rebrand, which have dictated that it has barely ever felt like "our Cardiff City".

Recent home matches have seen an increase in excitement and entertainment and, for me, the atmosphere has improved in proportion to this. So many people and players have come and gone from the club in the last few years who never got to see what I'd call a genuine City atmosphere was like, but, if Monday does turn out to be Bruno Manga's last match for us, at least he can leave now having experienced what it feels like on occasions when it is "our Cardiff City" performing out there on the pitch.

One last thing regarding Dave Jones. I feel that Neil Warnock and Malky Mackay possess a degree of charisma that Dave Jones doesn't, but you will see that I said

"So, as I've mentioned in one or two earlier pieces, home matches have become more enjoyable under Neil Warnock, but, five years to the day since that Reading game I mentioned at the start and with Joe Ralls again to the fore, the beating of this expensively assembled Villa team moved things on to a different level - this was what supporting Cardiff City used to feel like on one of those very good days that we had become used to experiencing on a fairly regular basis between the years of 2000 to 2012."

in my piece, the date range I mentioned covered the whole of the period when Dave Jones was manager. There were plenty of occasions during Dave Jones' time in charge when it felt like "our Cardiff City" - I'm just so pleased that it's beginning to feel like that again under Neil Warnock, because it never did under Ole, Russell Slade or Paul Trollope.
Some fair points there. I do feel though, that Jones "lack of charisma" was almost certainly (in my opinion) due to the bitterness he must have felt over the false allegations and the traumatic time he and his family had faced.
I'm amazed he carried on in the game at all.
That said, he was earning a good living at the time from us, and rightly so, shouldn't have been, and wasn't, exempt from Critiscism, for some of the spineless displays from his teams.
As for the feeling of "it's our Cardiff City again", then I agree with you about Warnock. I've always wanted him to manage us. He always gives 100%, what ever club he's at, and his teams usually reflect his siege mentality.
As I said, I usually enjoy your contributions and blogs, but with all that's happened since the play off defeat against West Ham, I feel it's gonna take a lot more than a few battling performances before it feels like my Cardiff City again.
By the way, my earliest memories of supporting the City, was following a sleeping giant, who regularly put in inept performances, and never seemed to be going in anywhere fast,in any direction for most of the time. Lol!