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Thread: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

  1. #41

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by Something Blue View Post
    Cheers Annis. Is Carl doing an update soon.
    Thats not kind now is it? we all know that Carl is pining and suddenly has no friends anymore now that his life support machine has gone. Remember also that most of his income has also gone now that he ceased to be a bus operator.

  2. #42

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    I think you're right about Cornelius.

    It's like me asking you to give me five grand so I can get to work, spending it all on a bike, then coming back and asking for another ten grand so can buy a car as well because I don't want to get wet.
    Toyota?

  3. #43

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    I tend to agree. I don't want to join in the Malky bashing, he was a very good manager, but to be fair, with the money he had to play with, there are a lot of managers out there that would've got us promoted.
    He doesn't do anything any different to all the rest, agents , managers etc....

  4. #44

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    He doesn't do anything any different to all the rest, agents , managers etc....

    Not sure that would be part of his defense if it gets to court

  5. #45

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    If anything was proved then my mind would change instantly but looking from the outside in, the source of it all appears to be a clueless Asian businessman not understanding that his employee could get one transfer so badly wrong and that he was the fans darling and not the owner himself.

    Cornelius was clearly an error of judgement and one that VT went very public on but what manager doesn't buy a dud now and again.

    Here's some of Malkys other targets during his time here:

    Jamie Vardy
    Virgil van dijk
    Jay Rodriguez
    Victor wanyama
    Kurt Zouma

    He also signed Troy Deeney for peanuts for Watford.

    That's well over £100 million worth of talent there. Maybe Tan should have backed him more?

    You may have heard rumours as have I but if there was anything more substantial to these I'm sure Malkay would have been dragged through the courts before now. As it stands he's guilty of receiving a few texts from a friend and I suspect nothing else will be found too but let's see.
    Those names are great but only really feasible as Tan was willing to back financially. Malky brought some decent players here but he didn't get any on the 'cheap'.

    I was a massive fan of Malky but the fact Tan is spending the money trying to 'smear' Malky makes me think that there may be something behind it. No smoke without fire? Who knows. Footballing-wise he only made one mistake. I don't think he deserved to get sacked when he did. I don't even care about his 'banter' as some people's lines in the sand are totally different.

    To be potentially corrupt though, that would lose all respect for me - There was absolutely no need.

  6. #46

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    I think you're right about Cornelius.

    It's like me asking you to give me five grand so I can get to work, spending it all on a bike, then coming back and asking for another ten grand so can buy a car as well because I don't want to get wet.
    And yet it's the Caulker and Odemwingie transfers which are the subject of the court action, not the Cornelius one which, on the face of it, looks the one most likely to be "dodgy" - strange.

  7. #47

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Those names are great but only really feasible as Tan was willing to back financially. Malky brought some decent players here but he didn't get any on the 'cheap'.

    I was a massive fan of Malky but the fact Tan is spending the money trying to 'smear' Malky makes me think that there may be something behind it. No smoke without fire? Who knows. Footballing-wise he only made one mistake. I don't think he deserved to get sacked when he did. I don't even care about his 'banter' as some people's lines in the sand are totally different.

    To be potentially corrupt though, that would lose all respect for me - There was absolutely no need.
    Gunnarsson. Cowie and Taylor didn't cost a penny in transfer fees between them and were all stalwarts of the team which got to a League Cup Final, while two of them were regulars in the side which won the Championship, as was Conway, another one who we didn't pay a fee for. Gestede came on a free and it wasn't Malky's fault that he was sold for a fraction of the amount Villa and Middlesbrough paid for him, while Conway is another one who we should have got more for. Helguson was signed for a modest fee and was a big part of the promotion team and while Jordon Mutch was hardly a cheap buy, we sold him for a healthy profit - there were some excellent signings for modest fees during the first half of Malky's time with us, but, like many managers, the problems began to arrive when he was given serious money, by Cardiff City standards anyway, to spend.

  8. #48

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Not wanting to judge MM abilities as a manager, because even though i wasn't the biggest fan its hard to argue that he isn't wasn't one of the best managers that we have ever had. He spent money because he had money available to him, every manager will spend in that situation and then every managers signings do not work out.

    However if there are allegations out there. Then ideally we want them heard in an open court surely. If the judgement at the end of it is that MM did no wrong, then the matter is pretty much ended for MM and he can get on with his career elsewhere (i think he has now served his time on the matter of the txts).

    It would be better for the fans of the game as a whole if the whole matter of payments to agents, and what they actually do for this money will be better to be open. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a culture of paying an agent, simply to have access to his network of players is common. However that doesn't make it correct.

  9. #49

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by bluethrough View Post
    Not sure that would be part of his defense if it gets to court
    It would be mine, I'd take arry in with me

  10. #50

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Gunnarsson. Cowie and Taylor didn't cost a penny in transfer fees between them and were all stalwarts of the team which got to a League Cup Final, while two of them were regulars in the side which won the Championship, as was Conway, another one who we didn't pay a fee for. Gestede came on a free and it wasn't Malky's fault that he was sold for a fraction of the amount Villa and Middlesbrough paid for him, while Conway is another one who we should have got more for. Helguson was signed for a modest fee and was a big part of the promotion team and while Jordon Mutch was hardly a cheap buy, we sold him for a healthy profit - there were some excellent signings for modest fees during the first half of Malky's time with us, but, like many managers, the problems began to arrive when he was given serious money, by Cardiff City standards anyway, to spend.
    None if that team sound like world beaters 2bh do they?? Bit of bellers and decent keeper. Helgerson, now he is exactly what a team needs in this league. How many times did he knock in a late one??

  11. #51

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Many of the problems about the transfers in question and the alleged offences were due to the fact the club's officers lacked experience in transfer dealings especially when large sums were involved and must have ratified the deals which have later been found to be suspect. That is due to a failure of Corporate governance for which the Board and owner must have some responsibility.

  12. #52

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by Something Blue View Post
    Cheers Annis. Is Carl doing an update soon.
    Holy shìt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  13. #53

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Malky wasted £9 million on someone that couldn't kick a ball,as for your shopping list the players didn't come here so it's meaningless because Malky FAILED to bring them here

    He's not in my top five City managers by the way
    Couldn't kick a ball? Who are your top 5 managers BTW?

  14. #54

    Re: Vincent Tan's £10m legal battle with Malky, Moody & three agents. A view from the Asian media

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I think you might be surprised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R View Post
    So do I.
    And I do!

    I'm with the R souls on this one
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 09-01-17 at 18:44.

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