I see Donald Trump has denied claims that Russian intelligence agencies have obtained personally compromising material related to him.
In doing so, he is only doing what any politician would do when such claims are unsubstantiated - the way the world is these days, you would expect someone to say much the same sort of thing at such an early stage of the story even if the allegations were true.
It's for this reason that I tend to take the denials of any politician in a situation like this with a pinch of salt - that's not fair, but it's what decades of watching political careers being slowly ruined by denied allegations that simply wouldn't go away has done to me.
So, this is not just me having a go at Trump again, my attitude would be much the same, no matter who the politician was that the allegations were aimed at.
However, there is something different about Trump, people seem to be more forgiving of the numerous examples there are of him being economical with the truth than they are with other politicians.
Maybe, it's the word "politician" which explains this - in my opinion, Trump has benefited an awful lot from the fact that, even now, there are plenty out there who don't think of him as a politician.
Is this why, attitudes are different towards him? Is this why when he says things that aren't true or promises things that do not happen, his supporters say "well, it was only banter, you didn't really expect him to do that did you?" and so many accept this in a way that they would never do with most other politicians?
My thinking on this is that this is a man who is going to be running the country that was, and arguably still is, the most powerful in the world in nine days time, of course he's a politician and so I treat stories like the one I've linked to with the same cynicism as I would if they had been about any other politician.
Last edited by the other bob wilson; 11-01-17 at 05:46.
The guy's a bullshitting idiot.
The fact that that he's about to become president tells you all you need to know about the level of people involved in politics.
He won't last long in the hot seat. Once his supporters realise that he's backtracked on all his policies, he'll be dodging bullets from all sides.
#watersportsgate trending on twitter
He's p1$$ed on his chips ..
Last edited by Wales-Bales; 11-01-17 at 09:36.
I believe this was reported in the buzzfeed piece that you provided the link to earlier? I'm not sure what your motivation for doing so was.
Do I believe it? Probably not, but nothing much would surprise me about what goes on behind the closed doors of the rich and powerful.
The tweet further down said he failed in his business attempts, so had to settle for prostitutes?
Wow, this stuff is serious, I thought it was some kind of joke
Publish or be damned I think is the expression.
Someone somewhere alleges there is a Trump picture of him doing 'stuff'
I would like to A See it and B. Have empirical proof that it is actually him - and not just a blurred image of some dressed up as him.
There is so much bullsh1t flying around at the moment I'm inclined not to believe anyone until it's been DNA tested.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
Trump with the non-denial denial:
Russia just said the unverified report paid for by political opponents is "A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FABRICATION, UTTER NONSENSE." Very unfair!
Live press conference starting at 4pm. It should be fun, maybe Trump will be handing out some P45's
Trump again on his phone today. Says he has no deals, no loans, no nothing with Russia. And yet..
Live stream for the press conference
The number of posters taken in by this fake anti-Trump story has shocked me. I already knew Vimana was a moron but some of you others should hang your heads in shame.
I'm sure one of your other multies will stand in for you to the same standard
I watched it for a few minutes, Christ what a car crash of embarrasment.
The referring to himself in theirs person terms was excruciating,
He genuinely believes his hype, good luck America 😱😃
The line of questioning is awful.
Had a laugh at the BBC representative saying "Hello this XYZ...........from the BBC" with a pause like he was james bond. Everyone was like ok and?.
Some are saying this whole conflict of interest thing is going to be a major problem. And the opposition will go to the courts regardless of how much he tries to distance himself.
It was a bad day at the office for the CNN fella
He's an idiot of epic proportions...as are the American people as a whole.
I control the spice. I control the universe.
Without the actual evidence who can really say, yes or no .
If the intelligence services have it ,put up or shut up.
I suspect the Democratic have been caught asleep at the wheel, and the movement to a Republican country has been coming since 2010 , when congress switched power to them .
If Trump brings jobs and security back to the USA , no one will care about his allegiances or indiscretions.
Last edited by life on mars; 11-01-17 at 18:50.
So some of the politicians / news papers / organisation that say otherwise need to publish or withdraw their accusations dont they ? - what do you reckon ?
Trump seems to be the human embodiment of dead cat theory.
As it stands, it seems that either 'they' or PEOTUS has to be making stuff up or downright lying.
The golden shower story sounds highly unlikely to me, maybe it's time for the ex-British spy to show his face?
Regarding Trump, I can't work out whether he is part of the game or not. If there was some big event coming up that needed a helping hand, he could be the perfect person for the job.
Time will tell, and in the meantime I'll be remaining on the fence.