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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    A random page in your post history



    Let's hope you don't piss someone off enough for them to see you've been half arsing risk assessments
    pmsl. WHAAAT? Meeee? No way. Everyone was impressed with my 100 page document that I produced overnight.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    ISPs still know what you've visited, ya goon.

    Incognito mode just works at your end.
    Oh fack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    What's to stop anyone who's an annoyance to the government, any opposition or protester having their internet history used to slander them?.
    People slander the government of the day.

    People despise parking fines, speed fines, fines for being on your phone while driving.

    Fines for no TV licenses.

    A friend of a family member got fined £1000 for having an out of date drivers license.

    etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

    Day to day people hate the law/government. As 90% of the time they only hear from them in a negative situation. Then they're happy to sign over every lasts scrap of information....

    For some reason they've got it into their heads the law and government does the right and correct thing for the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    How small would the possibility have to be before you thought it wasn't worth it?

    If they caught one potential terrorist but missed ten because the terrorists found alternative ways to communicate than hotmail, would you still be happy with the charter?
    The security services of the UK have and always will do what they please.

    Stopping terrorists discussing things of gmail is an excuse really for a blanket charter.

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    I'm surprised the calls to ban whatsapp haven't happened yet considering every message is encrypted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    I'm all for it tbh. Could help stop kiddy fiddlers, terrorists etc etc.
    Just don't like the fact companies like BT get their paws on your information
    Remind me again how that child abuse enquiry is going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itkman View Post
    I have nothing to hide anyway.
    Do you mind if I sit in your living room every evening just to make sure?

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    Keith Weller is back in the news again.

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    Surely there's a simple way around this?

    If everyone in the uk typed certain things into google every day then their super spy computer would crash under the weight.

    If specific keywords are a trigger (Isis,bomb making, politician killing, paedo terrorist on holiday in Syria should do it) then loads of people typing this would ruin their surveillance, thus making it all a bit pointless.

    Even if they did have the resources to track down the millions of people doing it, you could just say you were pissing about. You could even show them this post as proof that you're not a beardy bomber, just a bit of a rebel that is fighting back against the snooping.

    Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    I got nothing to hide either.....
    Mr and Mrs r in 1....2.....3....
    Don't you hide the sausage

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    Has bluetit ever said something funny? That'd probably be a good use for the snooper's charter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.

    This won't reveal anything about people like that.

    Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?
    I am not sure you quite understand the point of this change in the law. They have already been doing this, is one form or another, but it wasnt "legal" to be able to be presented in court. much of this is nothing new, only now they are enshrining it into law. Whereas before it was done anyway, but couldnt be presented in court.

    And the secret services have found weak points in Tor, its more invasive to be able to use. But these new powers likely give them the legal right to use the more invasive powers.

    And its 12 years for a reason. The same reason why most of europe is copying and catching up with what we have been doing for a couple of decardes

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    This is the thin edge of the wedge in the erosion of civil liberties how can anyone be all for this.

    If anyone says "I have nothing to hide anyway" they're completely missing the point.
    ^^ This for a start.

    The fact that this is about the snoopers charter is not what should be bothering people, not listening to the petition sends a clear message, they could not care less about what people want.

    Apathy is all the consent they need to take over every aspect of your life.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
    We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
    Very true. I know a few facts about the Colonel but next to nowt about his Mrs. Other than the fact she can't drive between Llandaf North and Radyr very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
    We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
    To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share 🤔

    It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
    We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
    All you know about me, or anyone on here, is the stuff they are willing to divulge.

    If you had total access to a year's worth of my internet history, phone calls, emails and texts then you'd know more about me than anyone else in the world.

    This is what we're giving up to these people and yet not many people seem too bothered about it. In fact there seems to be plenty of people who are very happy for this to be happening because, y'know, the kids or terrorism and stuff.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share ��

    It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.
    They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Pmsl .
    No problem.
    I've lost the key for my corned beef tin. Is it OK to search for "how to smash my meat in less than 10 seconds?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
    He won't care about privacy for as long as he can carry on Tommy Tanking himself into oblivion while ogling internet pics and vids of Russ.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
    Still completely missing the point 🙈

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
    Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post




    Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

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    He's got to be on a wind up, nobody is this wilfully ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
    Well that goes some way in to explaining why you think Slade was a great manager, the phrase 'Don't know shit from clay' springs to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
    Why do they even need this new law then? Surely they've already got everything they need from social media.

    Daft sod.

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    It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

    It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

    It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.
    Yup, they're the ones that get to decide what qualifies as "having something to hide", and just look at the list of agencies that get to plough through our private lives:

    Metropolitan police force
    City of London police force
    Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
    Police Service of Scotland
    Police Service of Northern Ireland
    British Transport Police
    Ministry of Defence Police
    Royal Navy Police
    Royal Military Police
    Royal Air Force Police
    Security Service
    Secret Intelligence Service
    GCHQ
    Ministry of Defence
    Department of Health
    Home Office
    Ministry of Justice
    National Crime Agency
    HM Revenue & Customs
    Department for Transport
    Department for Work and Pensions
    NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
    Competition and Markets Authority
    Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
    Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
    Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
    Financial Conduct Authority
    Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
    Food Standards Agency
    Food Standards Scotland
    Gambling Commission
    Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
    Health and Safety Executive
    Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
    Information Commissioner
    NHS Business Services Authority
    Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
    Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
    Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
    Office of Communications
    Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
    Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
    Scottish Ambulance Service Board
    Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Serious Fraud Office
    Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

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