The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

[Barry Dragon]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Yet the majority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of their freedom for what is essentially no gain.

You may have nothing to hide now but who knows what changes will be made to the law in the next few years.

I have not given up any freedom. What freedoms are you giving up as a result of this?

[JDerrida]

]"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."[/B]

Yet the majority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of their freedom for what is essentially no gain.

You may have nothing to hide now but who knows what changes will be made to the law in the next few years.

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

[surge]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

Aren't we already the most watched citizens in the world with the number of CCTV cameras? If UK liberty and UK security were a weighing scale then the balance already sits comfortably with security.

Capita, though not a government department, raised suspicion over people's benefits simply because they lived above a "WH Smith" which lead to them being stopped. It may be a lack of understanding that introduces suspicion and that can spiral into something much worse for an innocent person.

There is potential that the mountain of data leads to searching for a needle in a haystack and the action that needs to be analysed is lost.

[tigerbaybluebird]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38583357

And so it begins

[LordKenwyne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38583357

And so it begins

In certain areas I have no problem with them cracking down.

That is one of them.

[nugent]

Upload a screen grab of your browsing history from yesterday.

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[lardy]

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screen grab, not description.

[nugent]

screen grab, not description.

How do I do that on a Samsung galaxy?

[nugent]

How do I do that on a Samsung galaxy?

Just looked at my real list.
Ordered food with just eat.
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[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Just looked at my real list.
Ordered food with just eat.
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Case: 432870 Date: 12/01/2017 User: nugent

Thanks for doing your patriotic duty. Looks like you've earned your liberty for another day.

Ensure you are ready for tomorrow's spot check, citizen.

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[Croesy Blue]

Yes.

Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.

This won't reveal anything about people like that.

Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.

This won't reveal anything about people like that.

Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?

I wouldn't bother. If people like Barry think that allowing the Department of Work and Pensions to browse through his private internet history, phone calls, emails and text is going to protect him from a terrorist then we're doomed as a species anyway.

[Barry Dragon]

Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.

This won't reveal anything about people like that.

Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?

I am not sure you quite understand the point of this change in the law. They have already been doing this, is one form or another, but it wasnt "legal" to be able to be presented in court. much of this is nothing new, only now they are enshrining it into law. Whereas before it was done anyway, but couldnt be presented in court.

And the secret services have found weak points in Tor, its more invasive to be able to use. But these new powers likely give them the legal right to use the more invasive powers.

And its 12 years for a reason. The same reason why most of europe is copying and catching up with what we have been doing for a couple of decardes

[Croesy Blue]

I have not given up any freedom. What freedoms are you giving up as a result of this?

You're giving up the freedom to privacy and it isn't just about this anyway if civil liberties are being eroded so easily who knows what next.

What's to stop anyone who's an annoyance to the government, any opposition or protester having their internet history used to slander them?

I'd never have thought reading 1984 that it was going to be so accurate nor did I think people would be happy to accept it based on fear mongering by the media.

[LordKenwyne]

What's to stop anyone who's an annoyance to the government, any opposition or protester having their internet history used to slander them?.

People slander the government of the day.

People despise parking fines, speed fines, fines for being on your phone while driving.

Fines for no TV licenses.

A friend of a family member got fined £1000 for having an out of date drivers license.

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Day to day people hate the law/government. As 90% of the time they only hear from them in a negative situation. Then they're happy to sign over every lasts scrap of information....

For some reason they've got it into their heads the law and government does the right and correct thing for the people.

[nugent]

Case: 432870 Date: 12/01/2017 User: nugent

Thanks for doing your patriotic duty. Looks like you've earned your liberty for another day.

Ensure you are ready for tomorrow's spot check, citizen.

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Pmsl .
No problem.
I've lost the key for my corned beef tin. Is it OK to search for "how to smash my meat in less than 10 seconds?"

[Ainsley Harriott]

Pmsl .
No problem.
I've lost the key for my corned beef tin. Is it OK to search for "how to smash my meat in less than 10 seconds?"

[Croesy Blue]

Just looked at my real list.
Ordered food with just eat.
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A random page in your post history

Lads, I need to submit a risk assessment and method statement for a big job.
Cant be arsed to write one and I cant seem to find a generic one off tinternet that I like.
Now after being a foreman for a few companies over the years Ive sifted through emails and found one from a company I used to work for, its totally relevant but about 100 pages long.

So, I opened the word doc in one drive, changed the name of the company to my company and saved it.
Its a good job I checked it cos at the bottom of each facking page is a line saying "copyright (the old company name)".

Is there any way to delete them? They are not there in edit mode, they just appear in the final product. aarrghh.

Let's hope you don't piss someone off enough for them to see you've been half arsing risk assessments

[nugent]

Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.

This won't reveal anything about people like that.

Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?

They would probably use incognito mode

[lardy]

They would probably use incognito mode

ISPs still know what you've visited, ya goon.

Incognito mode just works at your end.

[nugent]

A random page in your post history



Let's hope you don't piss someone off enough for them to see you've been half arsing risk assessments

pmsl. WHAAAT? Meeee? No way. Everyone was impressed with my 100 page document that I produced overnight.

[nugent]

ISPs still know what you've visited, ya goon.

Incognito mode just works at your end.

Oh fack

[Croesy Blue]

I'm surprised the calls to ban whatsapp haven't happened yet considering every message is encrypted.

[Croesy Blue]

Has bluetit ever said something funny? That'd probably be a good use for the snooper's charter

[Tandy]

People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs