The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

[itkman]

We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs

Very true. I know a few facts about the Colonel but next to nowt about his Mrs. Other than the fact she can't drive between Llandaf North and Radyr very easily.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs

All you know about me, or anyone on here, is the stuff they are willing to divulge.

If you had total access to a year's worth of my internet history, phone calls, emails and texts then you'd know more about me than anyone else in the world.

This is what we're giving up to these people and yet not many people seem too bothered about it. In fact there seems to be plenty of people who are very happy for this to be happening because, y'know, the kids or terrorism and stuff.

[Croesy Blue]

People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs

To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share 🤔

It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.

[Tandy]

To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share ��

It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.

They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.

[Croesy Blue]

They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

[Organ Morgan.]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

He won't care about privacy for as long as he can carry on Tommy Tanking himself into oblivion while ogling internet pics and vids of Russ.

[Tandy]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

[Mrs Steve R]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

[Tandy]

Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

[Mrs Steve R]

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

Well that goes some way in to explaining why you think Slade was a great manager, the phrase 'Don't know shit from clay' springs to mind.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

Why do they even need this new law then? Surely they've already got everything they need from social media.

Daft sod.

[Croesy Blue]

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

Still completely missing the point 🙈

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

He's got to be on a wind up, nobody is this wilfully ignorant.

[nugent]

Wasn't gary glitter the first to be done for doing stuff "in the privacy of his own home ?"

Yeah he was nuge.

Cheers nuge

[nugent]

Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Consider a donation to help fight the battle: https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/snoopers-charter/

Ever googled something personal?


Who you text, email or call. Your social media activity. Which websites you visit.


Who you bank with. Where your kids go to school. Your sexual preferences, health worries, religious and political beliefs.


Since November, the Snoopers’ Charter – the Investigatory Powers Act – has let the Government access all this intimate information, building up an incredibly detailed picture of you, your family and friends, your hobbies and habits – your entire life.


And it won’t just be accessed by the Home Secretary. Dozens of agencies – the Department for Work and Pensions, HMRC and 46 others – can now see sensitive details of your personal life.


Over 200,000 people signed a petition to stop the Snoopers’ Charter, the Government didn’t listen so we’re taking them to court and we need your help.


There’s no opt-out and you don’t need to be suspected of anything. It will just happen all the time, to every one of us.
The Investigatory Powers Act lets Government keep records of and monitor your private emails, texts and phone calls – that’s where you are, who you speak to, what you say – and all without any suspicion of wrongdoing.


It forces internet companies like Sky, BT and TalkTalk to log every website you visit or app you have used, creating a vast database of deeply sensitive and revealing information. At a time when companies and governments are under increasingly frequent attack from hackers, this will create a goldmine for criminals and foreign spies.

You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.

It's not a post, it's the text from the link I put in the OP.

As for it being "bollocks", what part specifically are you disputing, the bit about our own private data being saved or the bit about the dozens of agencies having access to it?

[Croesy Blue]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security. Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative. If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

[JDerrida]

Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security.

Why the aggression? Do you often get aggressive with anyone who has a different opinion to you?

Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative.

You use an absolute generalisation when stating 'anyone'. You do not know what the majority think exactly or why they think that way.
In fairness, could the same be said about you that you are buying into the opposite narrative.

If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

Normal ISP's are the tip of the iceberg. Britain needs to protect itself from those who wish to do us harm.
There are significant numbers who are in that category, along with even greater numbers who will offer them support, security, cover, protection and safety. I want my country to do what is required to protect us from those people.

We all have opinions.

Mine is that I trust my country to protect us, more than relying on the goodwill of those who hate us and wish to do us harm.

What other opinions are there on the protection of our country?

[Croesy Blue]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

What security and safety is being given up? The UK is perfectly safe.

[Croesy Blue]

Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds

Go to bed you're thick enough when you haven't had a drink. No I don't kick off about being watched in a private place.

If that security guard was looking through your window while you watched TV would you be pissed off?

[nugent]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

[lardy]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"

[Mrs Steve R]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"

This ^^ wtf is wrong with you nugent?

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Stockholm syndrome.