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Warnock claims this in his press conference, almost hints Immers ripped up his contract to move closer to home. If so, fair play to Lex, I can't imagine many players would do that.
Also, Warnock says we didn't pay anywhere near £2m for him.
Manga to possibly stay as well, I can't see him signing a new deal but maybe the club aren't fielding any offers.
I would have taken a guess that it would have been a deal favouring the club over the player, the deal happened too quickly with the club also not looking to move the player on. If you look at the other players released we desperately try to offload them for a couple of transfer windows before we bight the bullet.Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Sounds right to me - it seems that, far from paying £2 million for Immers, we may not have paid a transfer fee for him at all. This piece from yesterday
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/c...mmers-12432373
includes the following
"According to the Bluebirds hierarchy, Immers actually arrived on a free transfer from Feyenoord, so they didn't feel duty bound to recoup any fee paid to the Dutch club."
It may not have worked out in the end for Immers here, but, given how he played last season, if it's true we got him for nothing, then it has to be seen as good work by the much derided (including by myself) transfer committee.
This will ruin Chepstow's day ...
Fair play to Immers if he ripped it up. The fact that he had another club so quickly would suggest he had been looking to move quickly.
All this unfortunate episode demonstrates is how little pre transfer investigative work is being done at our club. One minutes he signs the next minute hes wants out. Do you really think that kind of individual would have been signed under MM when he was restructuring our club.... I dont think so somehow. Nor any of the other numpties tan choo and delhman signed in aug either..... All of whom we either havent used or dont want now..... And that includes the appointed manager and all his staff. However why should we be surprised just look how many Ceo and other underlings have come and gone under tan. MM checked players out their backgrounds the track records etc signing gunna turner taylor cowie etc and i should remind you we pissed the league within two seasons aswell as a cup final and a play place
And then we got Ole in........
Did Malky's famous dossiers really include information on players' partners pregnancies? That (apart from a catastrophic loss of form) seems to be the main reason for Immers wanting to move on.
If so the 'investigative work' he and Moody put in should be celebrated even more. The 'gold standard' for transfer dossiers!
In chepstow's world, the clouds never have a silver lining.
I totally disagree with that Stan. Malky built a squad to get us out of the division. What the squad lacked in flair it made up in character.
To use the fact that Warnock has got rid of Chamakh and Richardson against him is ridiculous.
The guy brought in Hoilett and Bamba when the window wasn't even open and personally i think signing those two players is punching above our weight, especially on free transfers.
He signed Chamakh and Richardson on 2 month contracts and told them "prove yourselves", they didn't now they're gone!
You know that two but you're only interested in scoring points
Wot you talking about ....... Look at the transfer fiasco in aug!!
Dont just look at NW business look at all the players we have taken in this season that we now dont appear to want. Wot is your opion on that do you not find it Crazy business as most have been given long term contracts?
Peanuts in the grand scheme of things. It's less than one Ross McCormack
First read the "12 million" quote and thought it was ridiculous but reading that its mad to think how quickly it added up.
Its nothing is it really.....
£1m for hudson what a captain
£750k for big ben
£500k for matty conolly
Nothing for don
Nothing for conway
Nothing for taylor
£500k for marshall
And now ........
What a joke!!!
Up until the point that we were instructed not to like him he was considered the messiah down here.
Now, he didn't have a clue what he was doing from start to finish according to the majority??
Marshall and Hudson were signed by DJ not Malky.
Some of Malky's signings were:
Kiss - £500k
Kimbo - £2m
Noone £1m
Mutch £2m
Etien £1.5m (yes, seriously!)
Maynard £2.5m
Frazier £650k
Now some of those guys were good players, some of them an even better bit of businesss but yes, Malay spent over £10m assembling that promotion winning squad, great manager imho, but imagine what warnock could do for us with £12m to spend.
I went to the trouble of finding the details that you asked for of the £12m that Malky spent, now you're saying £12m is nothing while praising Malky for buying Hudson and Marshall. Bizarre.
Would it be better than winning the division easily and getting to a major cup final?
2 of those were signed by Dave Jones you ****ing doughnut
Sorry, how does that mean we saved a seven figure fee?
Weird thread this. Where did you see the word fee in that post?
Immers' posted this on his twitter (to which Noone and Pilkington responded wishing him) and the story about him ripping up his contract would suggest a genuinely positive relationship between us and him.Had a great time @CardiffCityFC Thanks to everybody in and around the club. Some things can change your life, i should always love this club
There was a massive difference between Malky's first season here and his second and third. The first seemed to be about long term planning, the second about instant success and the third a bit of a mess all round. I don't think he did enough to build for the premier league in the second season windows however he met the targets he was given ("promotion or sacked", wasn't it?) and was probably our last successful transfer period because of this. Kiss has been brought up but I seem to remember him being signed before Tan wished for far greater ambition so more of a first season buy than second despite when it happened. I think the most impressive job Malky did however was probably in his first season and that we have come somewhat full circle back to that strategy (limited funds, mixing clever buys with restructuring the club in order to push for play-offs) is testament to that.
Malky's first season did have the one advantage of a clean slate to work with. Warnock is trying to do a similar job but has a full squad, some of whom aren't good enough, which was signed under 5 previous managers and probably 8 different ideas for how the club should be run. Therefore I think some leeway should be extended to him (and indeed Slade and Trollope who had to follow Ole and transfer committee) in his cheap punts this season. Perhaps he should do more over the summer but if we're saying he's got a 50% success rate so far then things are looking far more positive.
If we are factoring in money spent and money recuperated on transfers into how successful they are then we should look to Spurs and try to identify why they are so good at selling players. So many of our players of late have left with us desperate for them to go (inflated wages and/or not playing because we don't think they are good enough) which has put us in a weak negotiation position. I reckon that is far more down to Ole and the transfer committee during his windows than it was to do with any other manager. We should also maybe look into why Spurs are not always the best at buying but this post is probably already far too long.
No one said the club saved a seven figure fee. The saving is on wages - if you believe the manager, club and local press.
Most of the recent reports now seem to agree that there was no fee (or a nominal fee) for Immers to sign from Feyenoord, but that he was on just under £15k pw. It was a 2 year contract. He has gone after 6 months by mutual agreement, and the implication of Warnock's last interview was that he 'tore up his contract' in order to play some football and be at a club just 90 minutes away from his partner and new baby.
So 18 months wage savings = approx £1.17m, a seven figure sum.
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