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Thread: Global Warming

  1. #51

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It was literally the only article I could find referring to the mail story at short notice. Nowhere else is giving it the time of day. A few of the weather/climate forums I used to go on frequently when I was a little boy praying for snow days had people loling about it though.

    For someone who says they like to use multiple sources to build their view, you seem to be defaulting to one very often these days.
    To be fair, I think it's virtually impossible for people to have a completely open mind on any subject because they are always drawn to anything which backs the viewpoint they instinctively edge towards. That said, Gluey's behaviour in this thread hardly seems like that of someone who is open to being persuaded after studying multiple sources on a subject. To dismiss the link you posted out of hand because it comes from a "global, multi-platform media and entertainment company" while placing so much faith in a story from something that is a global, multi-platform media and entertainment company with a clear political bias does strike me as a bit odd.

    Instinctively, I believe in global warming, but have gone on to fact checking sites to try and get something that, hopefully, looks at the subject from a fairly neutral perspective - I'll make no comment on what is said in these links;-

    http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/the...limate-change/

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/til...limate-change/

    http://www.politifact.com/subjects/climate-change/

  2. #52

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    To be fair, I think it's virtually impossible for people to have a completely open mind on any subject because they are always drawn to anything which backs the viewpoint they instinctively edge towards. That said, Gluey's behaviour in this thread hardly seems like that of someone who is open to being persuaded after studying multiple sources on a subject. To dismiss the link you posted out of hand because it comes from a "global, multi-platform media and entertainment company" while placing so much faith in a story from something that is a global, multi-platform media and entertainment company with a clear political bias does strike me as a bit odd.

    Instinctively, I believe in global warming, but have gone on to fact checking sites to try and get something that, hopefully, looks at the subject from a fairly neutral perspective - I'll make no comment on what is said in these links;-

    http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/the...limate-change/

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/til...limate-change/

    http://www.politifact.com/subjects/climate-change/
    I was just pointing out a current news item, or is that not allowed these days? Whistleblowers tend to have more to lose, so it's debatable whether somebody would end their professional career by making thing things up. I only mentioned the "entertainment company" bit as it's code for "we also promote propanda", while the DM fall under the authority of the Independent Press Standards Organisation.
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 08-02-17 at 07:35.

  3. #53

    Re: Global Warming

    What does the whistle blowers background look like?

  4. #54

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    What does the whistle blowers background look like?
    Dr John Bates is a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation according to the DM.

  5. #55

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Dr John Bates is a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation according to the DM.
    So you are 100% sure there was no outside influence, deals or coercion involved?

  6. #56

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    So you are 100% sure there was no outside influence, deals or coercion involved?
    There could have been. If you suspect anything and you feel strongly about it, now would be a good time to bring it up with the Independent Press Standards Organisation. Unless of course, as usual you are just acting like a tit

  7. #57

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    There could have been. If you suspect anything and you feel strongly about it, now would be a good time to bring it up with the Independent Press Standards Organisation. Unless of course, as usual you are just acting like a tit
    Ad hominem attacks do you no favours.

    It's a little strange though, Gluey, you must admit. When an experienced US judge made an order against Trump, and very clearly showed his working to anyone who wanted to look, you were falling over yourself to cast doubt against his integrity with subtle questions.

    And yet when a man (who I'm very sure you had never heard of) says there's been a coverup but provides no evidence, you're happy to accept it without asking the same questions; presumably because you like what he says.

    Why is he speaking before releasing his paper? Is it because he knows it will get ripped apart straightaway so he wants to get his publicity in first?


    Finally, you're obviously proud enough of your IPSO comeback to use it twice, but all the Mail have done is print an interview with him so there would be nothing for them to investigage. I'm sure you know that though

  8. #58

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    How about you explain your understanding of the widely accepted science behind climate change? And why you think it is wrong.

    In my experience most people who think it is all made up have little or no understanding of the actual case for it.
    Any chance of an answer to this?

  9. #59

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ad hominem attacks do you no favours.

    It's a little strange though, Gluey, you must admit. When an experienced US judge made an order against Trump, and very clearly showed his working to anyone who wanted to look, you were falling over yourself to cast doubt against his integrity with subtle questions.

    And yet when a man (who I'm very sure you had never heard of) says there's been a coverup but provides no evidence, you're happy to accept it without asking the same questions; presumably because you like what he says.

    Why is he speaking before releasing his paper? Is it because he knows it will get ripped apart straightaway so he wants to get his publicity in first?


    Finally, you're obviously proud enough of your IPSO comeback to use it twice, but all the Mail have done is print an interview with him so there would be nothing for them to investigage. I'm sure you know that though
    No need to look into the judge, others are already doing that. I have no doubt it was a political issue though, as is the climate change one above.

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  11. #61

    Re: Global Warming

    Gluey, the guy who claims he is an independent thinker who shuns the mainstream media investigates multiple sources from both sides before making his own decision and he's here wetting his pants over a Daily Mail article with no evidence and a single interviewee.

    Couldn't make it up

  12. #62

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    You can easily prove that there is absolutely no link between MMR vaccine and autism in about 5 minutes
    Have you seen this? https://vimeo.com/153178203

  13. #63

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Have you seen this? https://vimeo.com/153178203
    Nope, and I'm not likely to have time to today either.
    What is his case?

  14. #64

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Gluey, the guy who claims he is an independent thinker who shuns the mainstream media investigates multiple sources from both sides before making his own decision and he's here wetting his pants over a Daily Mail article with no evidence and a single interviewee.

    Couldn't make it up
    Let's see what happens, eh

  15. #65

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Let's see what happens, eh
    It's too late, we've already seen you spaffing over the Daily Mail

  16. #66

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's too late, we've already seen you spaffing over the Daily Mail
    Like I said, only the DM will print this stuff, the rest of the MSM stay away from it

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  18. #68

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    That wouldn't surprise me given that Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc, are all in the Globalists corner. The war on fake news continues

  19. #69

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    That wouldn't surprise me given that Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc, are all in the Globalists corner. The war on fake news continues
    And the Daily Mail is such a paragon of virtue eh? 😃😃😃

  20. #70

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    And the Daily Mail is such a paragon of virtue eh? ������
    They report anti-globalist news items, which one would expect from a Brexit supporting media organisation. Cameron was so incensed by the DM that he demanded the firing of their editor. Anybody not on the same page as the Globalists is being silenced under the fake news agenda.

  21. #71

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    That wouldn't surprise me given that Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc, are all in the Globalists corner. The war on fake news continues
    This is Wikipedia though.

  22. #72

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    This is Wikipedia though.
    Information is a very powerful tool. Any group trying to achieve a specific agenda would certainly like to 'add a little colour', no matter how subtle the effect is. Blocking the DM as a source seems to be a good example of this.

  23. #73

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    That wouldn't surprise me given that Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc, are all in the Globalists corner. The war on fake news continues
    I'm not sure if you are using that tripe to convince us or you.

  24. #74

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Information is a very powerful tool. Any group trying to achieve a specific agenda would certainly like to 'add a little colour', no matter how subtle the effect is. Blocking the DM as a source seems to be a good example of this.
    Does it?

  25. #75

    Re: Global Warming

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Have you seen this? https://vimeo.com/153178203
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...l-antivaccine/

    Have you seen this?

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