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    Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Family Tree magazine has a circulation of around 30,000 and is stocked by all good newsagents, such as WH Smith.

    I've just heard from the editor that she is commissioning an article of 1,200 words featuring the notable ancestors of an occasional, eccentric poster on here. The biggest problem will be persuading the reticent person to pose eating a huge gob-stopper while looking out to sea with a brass telescope.

    It may be a case for a Photoshop......
    Last edited by Cyclops; 09-02-17 at 15:47.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Family Tree magazine has a circulation of around 30,000 and is stocked by all good newsagents, such as WH Smith.

    I've just heard from the editor that she is commissioning an article of 1,200 words featuring the notable ancestors of an occasional, eccentric poster on here. The biggest problem will be persuading the reticent person to pose eating a huge gob-stopper while looking out to sea with a brass telescope.



    It may be a case for a Photoshop......

    You're not narrowing this down much!
    there are fascists pretending to be humanitarians like cannibals on a healthkick eating only vegetarians (Roger McGough)

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    You're not narrowing this down much!
    Is the word you want, eclectic?

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Family Tree magazine has a circulation of around 30,000 and is stocked by all good newsagents, such as WH Smith.

    I've just heard from the editor that she is commissioning an article of 1,200 words featuring the notable ancestors of an occasional, eccentric poster on here. The biggest problem will be persuading the reticent person to pose eating a huge gob-stopper while looking out to sea with a brass telescope.

    It may be a case for a Photoshop......
    They don't make gob-stoppers big enough I'm really pleased for you, aren't you clever.

    It will be a case of photoshop
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    ..... aren't you clever.
    “They say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit," Valkyrie said.
    China glanced at her. "They've obviously never met me.”
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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    “They say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit," Valkyrie said.
    China glanced at her. "They've obviously never met me.”
    ― Derek Landy
    Sarcasm? why wouldn't they want to print it? your work is excellent, it's my complimenting skills that are not up to scratch.
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Sarcasm? why wouldn't they want to print it? your work is excellent, it's my complimenting skills that are not up to scratch.
    Cyclops is chasing my family tree back for me has we speak. Some of the things he has found out for me about my FT have blown me away. The guy is an absolute legend.
    He hasn't finished mine yet but he has given me a few snippits. Aparently I got an ancestor called Cornelius. What sort of name is that

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    They don't make gob-stoppers big enough I'm really pleased for you, aren't you clever.

    It will be a case of photoshop
    On a serious note you two. Let me know when the article is printed. Looking forward to reading that

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    Cyclops is chasing my family tree back for me has we speak. Some of the things he has found out for me about my FT have blown me away. The guy is an absolute legend.
    He hasn't finished mine yet but he has given me a few snippits. Aparently I got an ancestor called Cornelius. What sort of name is that
    It's really interesting isn't it, I had no idea how much information there is out there to be found tbh, I would never have found the two books full that he found about mine on my own I know that.

    Your relative Cornelius wasn't worth £7.5m by any chance was he?

    Yeah I will let you know he will be asking you to pose for a pic with something in your gob next btw
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    Cyclops is chasing my family tree back for me has we speak. Some of the things he has found out for me about my FT have blown me away. The guy is an absolute legend.
    He hasn't finished mine yet but he has given me a few snippits. Aparently I got an ancestor called Cornelius. What sort of name is that
    Do you want to see the photo of your greatx2 grandparents (born in the early 1850's) now or later? Research finished - just the writing to do. A few surprises along the way - a bumpy ride.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    ... he will be asking you to pose for a pic
    ....but fully clothed in his case.....

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    ....but fully clothed in his case.....
    ..and mine, if you want them to sell any copies that is.
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Do you want to see the photo of your greatx2 grandparents (born in the early 1850's) now or later? Research finished - just the writing to do. A few surprises along the way - a bumpy ride.
    I'm quite happy to wait mate for the finished thing.
    I really can't thank you enough. I'll be like a kid on Christmas moning when it arrives

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    It's really interesting isn't it, I had no idea how much information there is out there to be found tbh, I would never have found the two books full that he found about mine on my own I know that.

    Your relative Cornelius wasn't worth £7.5m by any chance was he?

    Yeah I will let you know he will be asking you to pose for a pic with something in your gob next btw
    My Counelius was probably worth about to bob

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    I'm quite happy to wait mate for the finished thing.
    I really can't thank you enough. I'll be like a kid on Christmas moning when it arrives
    Just as long as you don't drive down the middle lane on the M4......

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Just as long as you don't drive down the middle lane on the M4......
    I would not have done that if the road wasn't empty, there was only me and the copper on the road.
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I would not have done that if the road wasn't empty, there was only me and the copper on the road.
    This will not have enhanced your street cred with the law-abiding/but intolerant pro-road-rage drivers on here....

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    Cyclops is chasing my family tree back for me has we speak. Some of the things he has found out for me about my FT have blown me away. The guy is an absolute legend.
    He hasn't finished mine yet but he has given me a few snippits. Aparently I got an ancestor called Cornelius. What sort of name is that
    This.
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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Are you doing me? A relative of mine invented the telescope I heard

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Are you doing me? A relative of mine invented the telescope I heard
    Banana sssandwichesss - What a load of bollocksss!

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Are you doing me? A relative of mine invented the telescope I heard

    We can all see through that

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    UPDATE: Article finished and sent to Editor this week.

    Among pics is Nug with his telescope ogling in the grounds of the Nurses Hall.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Alien View Post
    Cyclops is chasing my family tree back for me has we speak. Some of the things he has found out for me about my FT have blown me away. The guy is an absolute legend.
    He hasn't finished mine yet but he has given me a few snippits. Aparently I got an ancestor called Cornelius. What sort of name is that
    My grand-dad was called Cornelius.
    Are we related?

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    My grand-dad was called Cornelius.
    Are we related?
    Yes, he is the father of one of your parents.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes, he is the father of one of your parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes, he is the father of one of your parents.
    :fingers:

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    My grand-dad was called Cornelius.
    Are we related?
    I don't think so. The Cornelius in my family was born in 1668

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    My grand-dad was called Cornelius.
    Are we related?
    My grandfather's middle name was 'Loverock'. Just sayin'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Are you doing me? A relative of mine invented the telescope I heard
    Remind me not to talk to you when you've been drinking again.
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    My grandfather's middle name was 'Loverock'. Just sayin'
    I have an female ancestor with the Christian name, Midsummer. "Middie"?

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I have an female ancestor with the Christian name, Midsummer. "Middie"?
    Hey Cyclops, how hard is it to research the ancestry of a Jones in Wales?

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Remind me not to talk to you when you've been drinking again.
    I didn't have a effing clue what you was on about last night. I was looking at the messages with one eye open.
    Then my sweet n sour chicken balls came. Yum yum

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes, he is the father of one of your parents.
    Banana sssandwichesss - What a load of bollocksss!

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richyrich View Post
    Hey Cyclops, how hard is it to research the ancestry of a Jones in Wales?
    You'd be surprised that it is not necessarily as difficult as you'd imagine.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    I didn't have a effing clue what you was on about last night. I was looking at the messages with one eye open.
    Then my sweet n sour chicken balls came. Yum yum


    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    You'd be surprised that it is not necessarily as difficult as you'd imagine.
    Not quite as easy as they make it look on 'Who Do You Think You Are' though is it.
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richyrich View Post
    Hey Cyclops, how hard is it to research the ancestry of a Jones in Wales?
    Best of luck with that one mate.
    I tried tracing my Mum's side of my family tree back and I was getting nowhere, and she got a very unusual surname.
    In the end Cyclops kindly agreed to trace mine back for me and some of the stuff he unearthed was staggering. Not just the names of my ancestors but lots of info about them too. He managed to go back as far as my grandfather x 8 in the 1600s.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Cyclops do me bruv please.

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    I didn't have a effing clue what you was on about last night. I was looking at the messages with one eye open.
    Then my sweet n sour chicken balls came. Yum yum
    TMI again

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Cyclops do me bruv please.
    Now there's an offer he can't refuse
    'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled'

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    Re: Which CCMB poster will the subject of an article in "Family Tree" magazine?

    The article has gone to the printers and will be in the July issue of Family Tree - in all good newsagents around the middle of June.

    The following is an abridged version of what was sent to the editor and it was illustrated by photos. I'm posting it as many have messaged me with an unhealthy (even morbid) interest in the origins of one of our more out-there posters.

    "The Benefits of Using a Professional Researcher for Your Family Research.

    Two days before Christmas, 2016, a client (we will call her ‘Z’) wrote this comment about episodes of WDYTYA: ‘None of them compare to what was sitting on my doorstep this morning, which was my own family history... it's the most amazing gift I've ever had, it's not often I'm lost for words but I am right now, I really can't thank him enough. I need to go and cry now.’ After sending a report of someone’s ancestry, the standard feedback is, “Thanks”. What prompted this exceptional reaction?

    Z’s extraordinary family tree is festooned with notable and notorious characters. We will spotlight some and draw some conclusions about the benefits of using a professional researcher for the journey of discovery.

    Case Study One: Z’s grtx5 grandfather, William Tallemach (1783 – 1816). This forefather appeared unremarkable at first sight - until I eventually discovered him listed in a dictionary of sculptors. William designed and sculpted a memorial which adorns St Mary’s and All Saints Church, Beaconsfield.

    Then, in 1816, he won a prestigious commission for a monument in St Pauls Cathedral to commemorate the deaths of Generals Gore and Skerett while storming a Dutch fort. William died after designing this piece and the work was executed by Sir Francis Chantrey.

    So how were these facts unearthed? Google-searching “William Tallemach” generated no relevant hits. But then, going the extra mile, I found his children’s baptism records. They, and only they, disclosed that William’s occupation was a sculptor. Linking this to his name in the Google search box resulted in the dramatic discovery of his work.

    Case Study Two: Z’s grtx7 grandfather, Henry Pyefinch (1737-1779). There is an impressive mountain of archived documents about Henry. He designed and manufactured optical instruments. George Washington used a spyglass made by “the well-known London optical instrument maker” which “constituted part of my equipage during the late War”.

    Surviving examples of Henry’s instruments are auctioned today for four-figure sums. Remarkably, his work remains in the public eye in 2017.

    My report for Z featured several pages of information about Henry. How was this amassed? Whenever I research individuals, I use an extensive checklist of potential sources to be sure every avenue is explored. As a result Henry was found in Old Bailey proceedings; The Gentleman’s Magazine (a plan of his London Cornhill shop); wills at The National Archives and several references in Google Books (which is a valuable source of biographical data).

    Case Study Three: Z’s grtx2 grandfather, Peter Clearey (1850 – 1935), was involved in a particularly unsavoury crime (Z: ‘grim’) at Edinburgh in September 1885. It was widely reported and reads like a historical novel by Ian Rankin. For years, Cleary was in a gang that preyed on courting couples canoodling on the Crags. The man was led away to be blackmailed while the woman was ‘ill-used’.

    But this time, the woman escaped, only to plunge headlong over a cliff to her death. In court, Cleary turned ‘Queen’s Evidence’. The Lord-Advocate called it ‘the most horrible (crime) he had ever heard of’.

    This episode was discovered because I routinely check the names of clients’ ancestors in three on-line newspaper archives. This particular example also illustrates the need to painstakingly trawl alternative spellings of surnames – Z’s ancestor was noted as Peter Clarey.

    Case Study Four: Z’s grtx3 grandmother, Eliza Styles. There was a brick wall around Eliza which baffled seven researchers on an internet forum. She was recorded as married to Henry Styles with children, also named ‘Styles’ (1861); and as the unmarried Eliza Lindsay with boarders including ‘Styles’ young men (1881).Their baptism records disclosed that their father was Henry Weatherley although they were named ‘Styles’ on their birth certificates. Why was such a smokescreen created? Theories abounded, with no resolution.

    While investigating Eliza Styles, I found a story in the Marylebone Mercury (19/3/1864), ‘The Amours of a Confectioner’. Eliza had been employed in a shop woman by the married, Henry Weatherley. He had broken ‘open her bedroom door and seduced her’. Eliza was chasing Henry for financial support of three children. This answered all the questions about the couple.

    This cutting generated another line of Z’s ancestry - via Henry Weatherley. Now the surprises came thick and fast. The report mentioned that he was a confectioner - but neglected to tell the full story of his achievements.

    Henry didn’t just sell sweets. He invented machinery to accelerate the production of confection which was displayed at the Great Exhibition (1851). He also wrote a 130-page book, ‘On the Art of Boiling Sugar’. This featured more than 70 recipes (including barley sugar and Everton toffee) and is still sold today. Henry’s textbook has recently been described as ‘seminal and hitherto overlooked’ and as providing “the most revealing insights into this period of transition”. Henry still makes ripples today. This news helped Z (a confirmed sweet-fancier) to accept her ancestor, despite his philandering.

    This example illustrates how brick walls may be demolished by the delving of a professional researcher and how clues, once found, can provide significant information about an ancestor.

    Z’s family story was related in 123 pages of two comb-bound books. A well-written report is a further reason for using the services of an experienced researcher. Z wrote, ‘...thank you so much, to say I'm thrilled is an understatement, it has made my Christmas, can't wait to show my Dad on Christmas Day’."

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