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Thread: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Same question, how will they get elected if it's all rigged? I would love to think it would be as easy as that but I don't think it would be.
    What do you think is rigged?

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    What do you think is rigged?
    WB said it's a rigged game, I'm assuming he meant the system, I'm not saying it is or it isn't, I'm just saying if you believe it is then you can't believe that a new party would change anything.

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's all about Europe and the EU.

    The French have chosen a Goldman Sachs insider with no political experience to determine their future. A candidate who was backed by the establishment and it's establishment media. Now it is up to Macron to deliver the rebirth of Europe that he has promised the electorate, and it has to be in the interests of the people, not the establishment.

    Good luck with that one, but let's wait and see.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...on-presidency/

    https://www.ft.com/content/da3404fc-...4-9023f8c0fd2e
    He was Minister of Finance earlier in Hollande's government. So much for no experience.

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    WB said it's a rigged game, I'm assuming he meant the system, I'm not saying it is or it isn't, I'm just saying if you believe it is then you can't believe that a new party would change anything.
    I was talking about the choice of candidates, you would have to bypass the gatekeepers.

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I was talking about the choice of candidates, you would have to bypass the gatekeepers.
    I get what you mean.

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    Re: The French election is now Marine Le Pen vs a collapsing French establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    For a start just look at the Liberal MPs in the 1970s. There were only a handful of them but that short list included Jeremy Thorpe, who got away with attempted murder because of an establishment cover up, Clement Freud, who would be in prison now if he was still alive, and Cyril Smith.

    Lets jump to the 2006 Liberal Democratic leadership contest. Look at three of the top four candidates. In fourth position you had Mark Oaten. He was the Liberal Democratic spokesman for Home Affairs, but you would not want to know about the affairs was having in his own home with rentboys. His predilection would be thought disgusting and insane by any normal person. But what has his sex life got to do with his political principles you might say. Well it seems that like most Liberal Democrats, he had no real principles or beliefs. He ended up working for the International Fur Trade Federation. His two main Liberal Democratic supporters were Lembit Öpik, we all know about that clown, and Mike Hancock. Anyone who follows politics will know about the outrageous antics of the latter.

    In third place you had Simon Hughes, who was famous for launching an anti-gay campaign against Peter Tachell, his Labour opponent. It turned out that Hughes was a gay hypocrite. In fact, Hughes's whole career was characterised by lies and hypocrisy.

    Jailbird Chris Huhne came second. He started off as a Guardian writer so it seems as if he was lying for a living even before he became an MP. He is now making a fortune working for Selim Zilkh a oligarch who has moved into the biomass racket. We are now buying the trees Zilkh is cutting down in America to fuel our power stations. Who was the Energy and Climate Change Secretary who championed the use of biomass in power stations? You've got it – Chris Huhne.

    You might say I've just selected a few bad apples, but these are the top people. If it is rotten at the top then it is going to be rotten all the way down.
    And there was I thinking that the Lib Dems were the party of the pure , honest and caring for all party....

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