For the matalan murderer, 2 lives taken, 20 years for each would have been better I think. Pre meditated and planned.
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For the matalan murderer, 2 lives taken, 20 years for each would have been better I think. Pre meditated and planned.
shocking, should never be allowed out
you take a life, you give up yours
If it's a life sentence, they do give up the rest of their life. Not necessarily always in jail - after the minimum sentence is done they have parole hearings which can deny them outside 'freedom'. If they do have parole then they have to check in weekly with their officer and the smallest misdemeanour puts them back inside. I expect it's pretty hard for them to find a job.
Just had a look and there are about 5,500 life sentence prisoners inside at the moment. About 300 sentences are given each year and about 200 paroles are granted.
Keep them all inside and it soon gets very expensive. Not the best way to deal with justice, perhaps, but it's got to be a consideration.
Tldr, a life sentence stays with them for life.
Cardiff Queen Street murders: Andrew Saunders gets minimum of 23 years in jail for murdering young couple - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...rdiff-12661338
As a deterrent I'd give all adult premeditated murderers whole life sentences and 50 years minimum for anyone under 18.
So basically, aslong as he keeps his nose clean in prison, goes to all his therapy sessions, feeds the parole board a load of bullshit, he will be back walking the streets in his Early 40s. Kick in the bollocks for the victims families....they need to appeal that sentence and get it drastically increased
Yep, sounds easy really, probably best we hang him just in case. Mind you, I'm not sure a 23 year prison sentence will be easy and I'm also sure the parole board are highly trained and risk adverse. If he is released in 23 years time it'll be because he's no longer a risk to society.
And even then he'll have trouble finding a job etc. Unless he's a footballer of course and then people will be demanding he's employed at the very highest standard.
Last edited by itkman; 28-02-17 at 14:30.
Anyone can ask to appeal a sentence length for murder and many other serious crimes. https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review
Btw I'm not talking specifically about this case, just life sentences in general. People often think such criminals have been released when they leave prison, but it just means they're continuing their sentence somewhere else.
It wasn't even a spur of the moment thing. He meticulously planned it. Then carried out a brutal savage attack, over a bit of rejection. How can you ever trust someone like that back out on the streets. He didn't even have the balls to face Lee Simmons. He run up behind him and stabbed him in the back like the coward he is, then goes and chases down a terrified young girl screaming fr help, and stabs her repeatedly in the back and neck. If he doesn't deserve a whole life tarrif, then who does
He also had no previous so even if he did come out in 20 years saying he is fine, he still has the thing in him that can flip over something quite pathetic like being dumped. He will be messed up after 25 yrs behind the door anyway. Probably just top himself and save the tax payer a few bob.
Imagine what it would have been like to witness it too, there were people about even at that hour. If you had seen him stab the bloke then start to chase the girl it would be hard to stand by and do nothing......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
I always find it amusing when people say prison sentences are too short or prisons are too easy. Too easy/short for who? If you told me I was spending a week in prison I would make a mess of my trousers.
Didn't know that. From that link it says that anyone can appeal it, so anyone on here who's unhappy can appeal too.
Those men who killed that drug dealer iwho was dealing in crack and heroin from Llanedeyrn not so long ago got 32year minimum sentences, and IMO they done us all a favour. Just goes to show how pathetic a 23 year sentence for killing 2 inocent young people is