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    Re: Clive Lewis Is He The Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    Excuse me, but are you a nutter or have you just been taking drugs? No sane person would ever say we need another Alistair Campbell - an alcoholic pornographer who bullied and lied for his evil masters. He is supposed to have wept when Maxwell died. Let's hope he tops himself when Blair goes.

    The negative stories about Corbyn are mainly because he can't be controlled by Israel. Were you asleep when that it was shown the other month that many of the Labour - and Conservative - MPs answer to their paymasters in the Israeli embassy?
    Quote Originally Posted by David Vincent View Post
    It's not fake news. There are links to the documentary and a summary below. Corbyn is not sufficiently pro-Israel for them.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/is...byn-1016879568

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOhdgRBoc

    Do you think it is a coincidence that the most anti-Corbyn MPs are all in Labour Friends of Israel. Just look at some of the anti-Corbyn antics of some of these people. They have even heckled their own party leader during Prime Minister's questions. Just look up the anti-Corbyn actions by MPs like Mike Grapes, Louise Ellman, John Mann and Joan Ryan.

    The fact that Labour voters in Stoke were even willing to vote an obvious idiot into Parliament the other day shows that rank and file Labour voters still support Corbyn. They were voting for Corbyn not the idiot.

    I think it is an exaggeration to say that the anti-Corbyn stories are [U]mainly[/U] because of his stance on Israel/Palestine, but I agree that is a significant factor - and one of the main lines of attack with the anti-semitism allegations that have disintegrated on closer examination. The most prominent internal critics and slanderers are also LFI members, but not all of them. There are political/ideological opponents of Corbyn in the PLP (many dancing to the Israeli Embassy tune), but the larger number are MPs who see him as naive and a poor party leader (although an effective issues based campaigner and dissident agitator). The majority are more concerned about their seats and ministerial prospects than with illegal settlement expansion on the West Bank.

    I came across this open letter today, from Tony Greenstein to Joan Ryan, written on 8 January. I knew Tony years ago when I was very active politically (no longer) and always respected him. It is a searing attack on the hypocrisy of the Labour Friends of Israel (and the same applies to the Conservative Friends of Israel) when they shout 'anti semite' at campaigners for justice for Palestinians:

    http://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/ope...riends-israel/
    Last edited by jon1959; 07-03-17 at 17:47.

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