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    Housing Benefit to end for jobless aged 18-21 beginning next month

    The Tories announced this new policy two days ago for a change that will begin on April 1. They estimate it'll save a paltry £25m per year. What utter bastards they are.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...obless-9968096

    The Department of Work and Pensions chose a non-sitting Friday in the Commons two days ago to confirm 18 - 21 year olds will lose their benefits in less than a month.

    BYNIGEL NELSON
    00:37, 5 MAR 2017

    Ministers have slipped out plans to deny jobless young people housing benefit when MPs weren’t looking.

    The Department of Work and Pensions chose a non-sitting Friday in the Commons two days ago to confirm 18 - 21 year olds will lose their benefits in less than a month.

    That means they will either have to continue living with parents or find their own rent money.

    But shadow Housing minister John Healey is furious the government published the legislation at a time when MPs could not object.

    He said: “These shameful cuts in housing benefit will put young people on the streets.

    “They’re old enough to marry, work, pay tax and fight for our country but are being denied the same right to basic help with housing costs as any other British adult.”

    The measure was first floated by then Chancellor George Osborne two years ago to massive opposition.

    It would save £25million in the first year rising to £40million a year by 2020.

    But Theresa May was expected to abandon the plan when she became PM and fired Mr Osborne.

    Now Mr Healey is calling on Chancellor Philip Hammond to scrap the cruel measure in Wednesday’s Budget.

    Private landlords say they would not consider unemployed young people as tenants unless they had the benefit to fall back on.

    And homeless charity Shelter predicts it would force thousands more youngsters onto the streets.

    Councils are already struggling to cope with 60,000 homeless households with 100,000 children stuck in temporary hostels.

    Mr Healey added: “Ministers should hang their heads in shame. They will find next to no one who thinks this should go ahead.”

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    Theresa May and her new 'caring' Tory Party.
    Same old ..

    It should backfire on them. As if the Tories need worry about that. They have no real opposition.
    The plans have been long cast - heaven help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Theresa May and her new 'caring' Tory Party.
    Same old ..
    I remember that, I even raised an eyebrow at the time.

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    Weren't they going to do this before? I'm sure I moaned about it some time ago, I don't know what the hell they expect people with no families to do? Very low indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Weren't they going to do this before? I'm sure I moaned about it some time ago, I don't know what the hell they expect people with no families to do? Very low indeed.
    Yes, George Osbourne tried it and got knocked back.
    Obviously 'they' were determined to get it through, and have tried to do it on the sly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Weren't they going to do this before? I'm sure I moaned about it some time ago, I don't know what the hell they expect people with no families to do? Very low indeed.
    And those with abusive parents who they need to get away from.
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 05-03-17 at 22:17.

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    Re: Housing Benefit to end for jobless aged 18-21 beginning next month

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Yes, George Osbourne tried it and got knocked back.
    Obviously 'they' were determined to get it through, and have tried to do it on the sly.
    Yeah that's right, I remember now, they always manage to get things through eventually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    And those with abusive parents who they need to get away from.
    Indeed, It's going to cause loads of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    ^^
    Reasonable? - in principle? - What about in real life?

    As with any scheme which is supposedly about 'doing the right thing' (and not solely about clawing back money from the most vulnerable ...) it will be the fair implementation and practice of it which would be the real test.

    What is actually in place regards this: "helping young people get the training, skills and experience they need to move into a job and build a career"
    Really.. Jobs , careers .. great! - get in line kids

    Best prove and illustrate that is genuinely happening - first - before looking to implement some measure on the back of it.
    It is okay. If there is nothing in place and the kids end up without a job/career we can just call them lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Do you expect me to go and get the information data for you ? , sorry sunshine - Im trying to work from home and not get distracted by this place. Why not ask the the dept responsible for the information - they'll be much better placed to give the details you need Vim
    You could have not opened it, then you could have not read the thread, then you could have not replied to the thread.

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    Re: Housing Benefit to end for jobless aged 18-21 beginning next month

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    Obvz anything the Tories ever do is to the detriment of the working man or women.......No questions asked.

    Tories baddies, Labour the goodies.
    Who said that?

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    Re: Housing Benefit to end for jobless aged 18-21 beginning next month

    Considering the national living wage (or the new minimum wage to be more accurate) comes for those over the age of 25, this seems to be a further cut made targeting the young. Stats also show women are bearing the brunt of 80% of austerity.

    Tax credits being cut may put more emphasis on employers to pay decent wages but better wages should have been followed by tax credit cuts rather than the other way round. Likewise, HB cuts may encourage the young and their families to rely less on the state but it should have followed an effective move to increase affordable housing stock and greater control over private landlords rent demands and in general for irresponsible landlords.

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